WFH legislation

Nope, simplistic.

What is in the WFH legislation that would cause concern to an American multi-national?

Several posters have asked you this question, you've been completely unable to provide any specific answer.
Your claim has no credibility.
If the company has a policy of not allowing it in their organisation.
 
If the company has a policy of not allowing it in their organisation.
That doesn't answer the question.
From the posts so far, you don't appear to have any understanding of the content of the legislation.

So, how does this legislation interfere with that?
All they have to do is provide support for this policy eg culture, productivity whatever and refuse all WFH requests.

If they do that, can you explain how the legislation presents an issue for them?
 
I WFH about 4 days a week. Varies depending on client meetings etc. It probably saves me around 10 hrs a week commuting time and probably half of that is gone back to the company. In other words, becuase I don't have to worry about traffic, I probably work a bit longer. However I'm at a level where clocking in and out is not the reality of life.

One thing is has done is that our sickness and absenteeism levels have plummeted because we treat people like grown ups. You need to take an hour to go to a parent teacher meeting?, fine, off you go. But will that report still be in my inbox for 9am the following morning?. In other words, take the hour in the middle of the day and make it up later if needed. it's about output, not clock watching and as long as the clients are happy and work is getting done, who cares where someone is based. ?
 
If the company has a policy of not allowing it in their organisation.
Thats not an issue, I have a legal right to ask for it, you have a legal right to say no. Will people leave as a result?, Probably, Will your employer end up hiring poorer quality staff who need to be babysat?, probably. But that's life.
 
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If it is that easy to refuse why have the legislation at all. And over time the WRC will start favouring the employee as the precedent beds in. So now is the time to get it off the books and leave it voluntary.
 
If it is that easy to refuse why have the legislation at all. And over time the WRC will start favouring the employee as the precedent beds in. So now is the time to get it off the books and leave it voluntary.
Legislation was there to try and get a few votes and keep the PS unions happy. As for the WRC, plenty of cases are thrown out there as well and unless you can prove discrimination, it's hard to see what grounds the WRC would have to say yes to a case.
 
If it is that easy to refuse why have the legislation at all. And over time the WRC will start favouring the employee as the precedent beds in. So now is the time to get it off the books and leave it voluntary.
Again, another post demonstrating your have no understanding of the legislation, and happy to remain so.
Another post where you haven't provided any examples of this being an issue for a company.

Completely unconvincing.

It wouldn't be the first time a government has brought in legislation that appears to promise more than it delivers.
 
I do understand it.
It was surely an issue for the companies that were brought to the WRC despite exercising their supposed right to say no. Why should a company have to waste this time.

These laws grow legs and tentacles after a while.
 
I do understand it.
It was surely an issue for the companies that were brought to the WRC despite exercising their supposed right to say no. Why should a company have to waste this time.

These laws grow legs and tentacles after a while.
Your posts demonstrate zero evidence of that, having to be corrected by multiple posters as to its content.

Companies are brought to WRC for cases all the time.
Should we abolish the WRC?
Abolish all legislation protecting employees?

Companies should be treating staff fairly, and that includes with regard to working from home policies.
If they have a blanket no WFH policy and can support that with foundation, there is nothing in the current legislation that will interfere with that - or at least, after half a dozen times of asking, you've provided zero credible evidence of.

You obviously have some ideological issue with the concept of WFH.
You've been unable to provide any evidence for any of your claims.
There are wider considerations with regard to working from home which governments should be mindful of, less strain on costly transport systems, commuting impact, childcare, health, work-life balance etc
If a company can provide data as to why in office is needed, that is one thing, and it therefore has nothing to be concerned about from the legislation.
If it cannot, and it is pig headed enough to press on demanding in office, that's on it, and it doesn't say much for its global competitiveness. And if it costs a few of those such jobs (likely to be here today gone tomorrow regardless), balanced against other considerations, that is a call for governments - and not just here - to make.

You'll have to do a lot better than, slippery slope \ some American companies might have an issue with it hypotheticals.
 
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We do that and nobody works from home. Within reason people come and go as they please. It's up to them to organise their day so that it causes the minimal amount of disruption.
 
We do that and nobody works from home. Within reason people come and go as they please. It's up to them to organise their day so that it causes the minimal amount of disruption.
It all depends on the business in my view, I can just as easily talk to someone in India from home as from the office. There are a lot of managers out there however who are trying to justify their existence by ordering people back to the office when in reality, they are justifying their uselessness,

Where WFH has a weakness is with new recruits, first jobbers etc. Getting them productive as part of a team is more difficult
 
Quick Google of Rte working from home will give you plenty.
I'm seeing some articles, but even adding qualifying terms to the search I'm still not finding any that make any claim close to it being the best thing sine sliced bread. It comes across as if you have some personal issue with WFH? Is that driven by a genuine concern of jealousy?
 
If it is that easy to refuse why have the legislation at all.
Because the public demanded it. Now, the public expected something with teeth, but the Government whether by design or accident arrived at something no competent business should have any fear of.
 
I guess we all read and hear things differently. Nothing to be jealous of, wouldn't be my cup of tea. I cut my grass in my own time .
 
I guess we all read and hear things differently. Nothing to be jealous of, wouldn't be my cup of tea. I cut my grass in my own time .
You've made a series of claims here, it seems you are entirely unable to back them up.
 
You've made a series of claims here, it seems you are entirely unable to back them up.
I dont agree .
Some employers will see the legislation as a burden they don't want to deal with . This will factor into their decision making. They may or may not state that publicly.

Leave the issue as a voluntary issue.
 
Some employers will see the legislation as a burden they don't want to deal with .
We're better off without an employer who fears a simple conversation with their staff. There are many other areas of legislation that put actual burdens on employers here. I find it quite fanciful that any employer willing to sign-up to all that would somehow baulk at the idea of having to explain a simple decision.
 
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I guess we all read and hear things differently. Nothing to be jealous of, wouldn't be my cup of tea. I cut my grass in my own time .
I think that quote explains your take on people who WFH. You're implying they're not working. Some of the least productive employees I know were found out during COVID. In the office, they could carry the same piece of paper around for the day and look busy. No one could see them do it at home, so they were judged on output. They couldn't wait to get back.

If an employer is willing to comply with the employment legislation we have to the WFH one is insignificant. Before it, I could ask for WFH and they could ignore it. Now they just say they have a policy and reject the request.
 
Are ye all WFH today ?
Yes, I am, since 8.15 this morning. I've walked the dog first (in my own time), not cut the grass and the only thing I've skived off work to do is to collect a parcel a courier was dropping off. I've had lunch with my wife instead of with people I might not actually like and will finish work around 5.30 and be home around 5.30 and 1 second later instead of spending 60-90 minutes in the car complaining about idiots in BMW's. So far. I have spoken to clients and colleagues in Ireland, the UK and the UAE and will shortly jump on a call with some lovely French people.

Actually, you could argue that typing this post is skiving off but I would have done that if I had been in the office anyway so that doesn't count

And my Quoker tap increases my productivity as it is far closer to my home office then the canteen at work is and far faster to make a cuppa.