Right Winger
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You don't tap off when alighting from a bus though.Your daughter is right, you must tap off before switching transport modes.
In order to have a valid ticket to travel you must:
- touch on before each bus journey
- touch on before and touch off after each rail and tram journey
Correct. I agree that it's not exactly clear/consistent.Thanks @arbitron - I'll know better in future. To add to the general inconsistency, it also appears that you don't tag off when exiting a bus, even though buses are also covered by the 90 minute principle.
Leap card is 2 euro for 90 minute fare - that's what you'll be charged if you use the validator on the right hand side. For a short ride you ask the driver and he'll charge you you 1.30 on your leap card. https://about.leapcard.ie/dublin-busBuses are different because you tell the driver the stages you want and they register the info that way, so they don't need you to tap off.
If you tap on the Leap machine on the right side (where people use bus passes, weekly tickets, etc.) with your regular Leap card then you are charged the maximum fare, which is for anything beyond 13 stages, a fairly long journey.
Leap card is 2 euro for 90 minute fare - that's what you'll be charged if you use the validator on the right hand side. For a short ride you ask the driver and he'll charge you you 1.30 on your leap card. https://about.leapcard.ie/dublin-bus
I agree. There needs to be an information campaign to inform people how to navigate this process and signage at stations. There also needs to be more tap on/off machines so you don't have the exit the platform as described. I have seen queues to tap off/on at Broombridge while the luas departed and passengers had to wait for the next one.Yet another inconsistency is when switching between Commuter Rail and DART (technically separate services so should do the tap-off-on thing when switching at Connolly.) Yet to do this, you'd have to exit through the card-operated barriers, turn right around, operate the barrier again and retrace your steps, switch platforms and get on the DART. Surely not. Again, there's no signage and the online guidance is inconsistent and unclear. How are infrequent users and tourists supposed to figure it out?
Thanks. But it's a ridiculous system. And in my experience many drivers are cheesed off when you tag on with them rather than at the other scanner.Leap card is 2 euro for 90 minute fare - that's what you'll be charged if you use the validator on the right hand side. For a short ride you ask the driver and he'll charge you you 1.30 on your leap card. https://about.leapcard.ie/dublin-bus
Than what?I'd rather have a faster network and see them hire 200 more revenue protection officers and prosecute fare evasion seriously.
Good for you. But many users do have to take cognizance of the costs involved.I'm not a very price-sensitive user at all - I just want a fast service with good connections.
I heard that CIE let wimmin drive these days too...For a short ride you ask the driver and he'll charge you you 1.30 on your leap card. https://about.leapcard.ie/dublin-bus
There are to my knowledge now 1m free travel cards in existence for about 4m adults.Good for you. But many users do have to take cognizance of the costs involved.
These are not discrete groups.In the 2019 CSO survey of public transport only 3% of people said they didn't use public transport primarily due to cost. 9% cited low frequency, 6% cited unreliability.
By design they are.These are not discrete groups.
I never knew about that distinction between the scanners and again, the signage and guidance is useless to non-existent. And what happens if you want to do a short bus journey (1-3 stops) followed by a Luas or DART trip? Presumably you use the right hand one and you get the transfer 90 limit? Or the drivers one, followed by the tap-on at Luas which converts your initial fare to the transfer 90 one? It's clear as mud! I'm sure if you're using it everyday, you get wise to the nuances, but for the occasional visitor to the city, it's all a bit comical really.Thanks. But it's a ridiculous system. And in my experience many drivers are cheesed off when you tag on with them rather than at the other scanner.
Integrated ticketing has been talked about for years, and there was great fanfare when it "arrived" in the shape of the Leap card. It looks like what we have is actually a semi-integrated system with different modes of operation for different services.There is a daily cap in place as well, so once you've hit 5.60 on the Luas in terms of fares, you shouldn't be charged any more and 8.00 for multi mode transport.
NTA are supposed to be awarding a tender for what they call next generation ticketing in the next few months, that will allow the use of debit and credit cards instead of Leap or cash but it is a massive project to role out.
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