travel expenses- distance from home or office for after hours event?

joeclogs

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If someone is claiming travel expenses for a night-time event is the mileage calculated from the persons home or from the office? The person works in the public sector and the reality is they would have gone home at 5 and then had to travel from their home to the event which is a greater distance than from the office to the event
 
See Revenue leaflet IT51 which explains how to do this. Section headed "business travel involving travel directly to/from home" This says that :-

Where an employee proceeds on a business journey directly
from home to a temporary place of work (rather than
commencing that business journey from his/her normal place of
work) or returns home directly, the business kilometres should​
be calculated by reference to the lesser of -
the distance between home and the temporary place of
work; or
the distance between the normal place of work and the
temporary place of work​
 
should the reality for the claim not be exactly that - the reality of what happened, not that s/he would have gone home but what they actually did. we're (i'm civil service) in enough trouble without making spurious claims for additional mileage that did not occur.
 
The situation is accurately described, there is no spurious claims involved or intent to defraud. An event took place at 8pm which the person was obliged to attend. They had left work as normal at 5pm. Their home is 10 miles away from the office and the question are they entitled to claim for the journey to and from that event (20 miles). It seems unfair that they cannot claim for the actual additional mileage they incurred particularly as night-time events are painful at the best of times, without feeling that they are out of pocket as well.
 
should the reality for the claim not be exactly that - the reality of what happened, not that s/he would have gone home but what they actually did.

Actually, not quite: this is handily covered in regulations.

See paragraphs 13 and 14 of Circular 11/82 -
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well i misunderstood your post but i think you could have made it clearer. depending on the grade the person is they can claim for overtime for the official duties so they wouldn't be out of pocket, from what dreamerb has posted it would seem they have to claim for the mileage from the office, given the small distance involved the amounts involved aren't exactly large. also could the journey have been made by public transport? if so that should be the limit of the claim.
 
The person is on contract and not entitled to overtime. Public transport is not an option in the area. This would be a regular occurrence as job involves a lot of night work so in the course of a year the amounts could be substantial. The rules are logical for daytime situations but seem unfair for nightime situations -has anyone experienced this before? Is it analogous to recalling someone from leave where travel would be allowed or suchlike?