I was about five or six - I could hardly leave home and the smoke didn't respect room boundaries.daltonr said:My child abuse crime would apply only to people who routinely smoke in confined places with kids who are unable to speak for themselves or get up and go somewhere else. e.g. Those with kids strapped into baby seats in cars.
Chris said:I stopped smoking 18 months ago and haven't touched one since.
I'll probably be lambasted for this again but ... that's a fairly sweeping generalisation so do you have any evidence to back that claim up?Furze said:Lets face it, hospitals are chocker full of geriatrics who never smoked, being kept alive (some against their own will) for commercial reasons to exhaust their private health insurance.
Nope - Smokers are net cost to the economy, despite what [broken link removed].Furze said:Don’t mean to be cruel but does the State not gain with early deaths of ordinary citizens – pensions, hospital care.
Lets face it, hospitals are chocker full of geriatrics who never smoked, being kept alive (some against their own will) for commercial reasons to exhaust their private health insurance.
What will the State coffers do if the excise on tobacco disappears ?
RainyDay said:Nope - Smokers are net cost to the economy, despite what [broken link removed].
ClubMan said:I'll probably be lambasted for this again but ... that's a fairly sweeping generalisation so do you have any evidence to back that claim up?
The [broken link removed] did indeed take this into account;Furze said:Excellent article
However, no mention of the additional health costs etc that will be placed on public services with greater numbers surviving. Also assumes that the lost excise take will be replaced by responsilbe consumer spending.
I'd really like to see that 1993 study, wouldn't you?Furze said:Escape from Responsibility
“A government study in 1993 found that if the tax on cigarettes were to truly reflect smokers' actual spill-over effects, it would have to be cut . “
podgerodge said:I get more crap in my lungs walking down Dame Street every day courtesy of Dublin Bus, and more dubious chemicals in my system from that dreaded Flouride the government has decided to mass medicate us with.
Don't tell me now that a whiff of smoke on the street is gonna cause passive smoking effects. If we get that bad, ban traffic first. Cough.
relax , im only "letting off steam"!
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