“Democracy is far more than just elections. It requires independent courts, non-party civil servants, robust institutions such as churches and universities; the rule of law and property rights; a free press; constitutional checks and balances; above all a culture of openness and tolerance, especially of minorities. But voters’ ability to throw the rascals out at regular intervals is still the indispensable sine qua non.”
Judging by those standards certainly narrows down the list.
To zero
Ironically, I beleive that once they achieve this, we will see the fall of extremism that has arisen because the people have had neither.
My view is that freedom and democracy are not a natural state, I don't believe that there is such a thing. I do thing they are the desired state and everyone should strive for them but that's not the same thing.
I’m always a bit wary of equating Greek democracy with modern democracy. The Greeks who were part of the Demos could vote but it was essentially a tribal system. Citizenship was based on kinship by birth so an Athenian living in Thebes could not vote and his sons could not vote. Slaves, women and foreigners (even ones whose families had lives there for generations) couldn’t vote so in effect they resembles oligarchies as much as democracies. It’s also worth noting that in many cased citizenship was confined to the wealthy so Greek democracy wasn’t anything close to universal; they had a minority holding all the power, they were just larger minorities than was usual at the time.
I’m very interested in the philosophical development of modern democracy but I need to do quite a bit more reading before I can engage in a meaningful discussion about it.
Well they promise a new constitution (for eventual referendum )in 2 weeks, and elections in 6 months, so not quite. Have to say tho, it all smells a bit, the army are into everything from bottled water to farming. They'll want to protect themselves, interesting to see how this develops. Incredible stuff now going on everywhere in the region, Bahrain looks next. The big one will be Gaddaffi.
Purple while I'm been breakin me back in the garden and checkin AAM every now & then, you've had time to keep up and carouse the news!
Purple, I saw nothin on the news about Saudi troops in Bahrain, are you sure? I was watching Al Jazeera so maybe it's reported elsewhere.
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