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This thread aims to provide useful information to members of the Single Public Service Pension Scheme (the “Single Scheme”).

The way the Single Scheme works raises complex financial issues for members in ways that older public service pension schemes do not. There’s relatively little discussion out there about these issues because most members haven’t had to think about retiring yet.

This thread is a basic introduction to some of these issues. Aspects of matters discussed have been simplified and / or not fully explored. A state pension of €14,500 has been assumed for various calculations. Aspects of the post may also be incorrect in which case I encourage you to point that out in the thread so the post can be corrected.

This thread is not financial advice and was not written by someone with financial qualifications. It’s based on basic research of the Single Scheme, reading various threads on the forum and discussing the issues with other users. You can find more information about the Single Scheme online here: https://singlepensionscheme.gov.ie/

It’s best to talk to a qualified financial advisor / pensions expert before making any financial decisions so that your personal circumstances can be fully factored in to the financial decisions you make.

The thread is structured as follows:

1. General Information about the Single Public Service Pension Scheme
2. How much will it cost me?
3. How big will my pension be when I retire?
4. Does it make sense for me to invest more in my pension as a Single Scheme Member?
5. Additional Voluntary Contributions (AVCs)
6. Revenue funding limits
7. AVC strategy suggestions / examples (Read this if TLDR)
8. Early Retirement on the Single Scheme
9. The Single Scheme Purchase Facility
10. Key Differences between the Single Scheme and older Pension Schemes

Note – Current Thread Version: Jan 2025

Note – This thread is aimed at standard members of the scheme and not "uniformed" / fast accrual members but key principles should be broadly the same.
 
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1. General Information about the Single Public Service Pension Scheme

If you started working in the Irish public service from 2013 onwards you are a member of the Single Public Service Pension Scheme (the “Single Scheme”).

The Single Scheme is an occupational pension scheme. When you retire you will receive your pension benefits from the Single Scheme in addition to your State Pension (assuming you have enough PRSI Stamps to qualify for a state pension).

The normal retirement age for Single Scheme Members is the State Pension Age. At the moment this is 66. You can retire as early as Age 55 on the Single Scheme but if you do your pension benefits will be reduced (discussed further below). You can work till age 70 on the Single Scheme if you want.

When you retire under the Single Scheme you will receive:
  • A “Referrable Pension”. This is money you’ll receive like your salary. You’ll pay tax on it when you receive it.
  • A Tax-Free Lump Sum. This is a large lump sum you’ll receive tax free from the scheme.
If you joined the Irish public service before 2013 but left and then later rejoined it’s likely you’ve now been placed on the Single Scheme. You’ll need to check up on this if that is the case.

If you are an agency staff member you are not a member of the Single Scheme.

You have to be a member of the Single Scheme for two years before you can receive any benefits from it. Your contributions will be refunded to you when you leave your employment if you leave with less than two years service.

You can find manuals and helpful info that contain more general information about the Single Scheme here: https://singlepensionscheme.gov.ie/for-members/scheme-information/

2. How much will it cost me?

Each time you receive your payslip your employer will automatically deduct pension contributions to the Single Scheme. Each year these contributions will cost you:
  • 3% of your gross salary (your up-front salary before any deductions) and
  • 3.5% of your net pensionable salary (your gross salary minus twice the annual value of the State Pension).
You will also pay Additional Superannuation Contributions (“ASC”) each time you’re paid. ASC is an additional tax levied on public servants to pay for their public service pension. ASC is currently set at the following rates for each year:
  • 0% on salary up to €34,500
  • 3.33% on salary between €34,500 – €60,000
  • 3.5% on salary at €60,000+
You will automatically receive tax relief at your marginal rate of income tax on the contributions you make to the Single Scheme and the ASC you pay. This means you will receive tax relief at 20% or 40% on these depending on your current salary. So a contribution to your pension with an upfront cost of €100 would in fact cost you €80 (20% relief) or €60 (40% relief) at the time you make it (remember, you pay tax on your referrable pension when you retire). You currently pay 40% tax on all salary after €45,750 (this figure takes €3750 tax credits into account) and 20% on amounts lower than this.

The following table illustrates how much pension contributions and ASC will cost you per year at different salary levels:

Gross SalaryAmount of Pension Contribution per yearASC Paid per yearTotal Cost after tax Relief
25,0007500600
50,00022355101647
75,000386013703138
100,000548522404635
125,000711031206138

You pay for your State Pension separately through your PRSI contributions. PRSI is currently set at 4% of gross salary.

3. How big will my pension be when I retire?

Every time you make a contribution to the Single Scheme you bank pension benefits.

When you retire your final pension will be the sum total of the benefits you have banked throughout your career.

The precise benefits you bank each time you make a contribution are based on your salary at the time you make the contribution.

The following table illustrates how much pension benefits people at different salary levels will bank per year on the Single Scheme at present:

Gross SalaryReferrable Pension per yearTax Free Lump Sum per year
25,000145940
50,0002901875
75,0005752810
100,0008903750
125,00012004690

You can extrapolate from the above table what you think you might get in retirement, bearing in mind this is only an approximation. There is a single scheme calculator you can use here if you'd like to get more granular: https://singlepensionscheme.gov.ie/for-members/scheme-information/single-scheme-estimator-tool/

To illustrate, if someone’s salary and the State Pension remained static for thirty years, they would receive the following benefits on retirement:

Gross SalaryPension from Single Scheme after 30 YearsPension from Single Scheme after 30 years + Full State PensionSingle Scheme Tax Free Lump after 30 Years
25,00043501885028200
50,00087002320056250
75,000172503175084300
100,0002670041200112500
125,0003600050500140700

The Benefits you bank under the Single Scheme are uprated in line with inflation. This means the value of your benefits increases to match the rising costs of goods and services over time in the economy. This preserves their value.

Calculating what your final pension benefits will be on the Single Scheme is very difficult. This is because your salary will fluctuate a lot throughout your career, whether through promotions, increments or general public sector pay increases.

If you die while you're a scheme member your estate will be paid twice your salary in the 12 months before your death.

Your spouse / civil partner will be granted a survivor’s pension equal to half of the pension if you had been retired or discharged on medical grounds on the date of your death. An eligible child may also be eligible to receive a child’s pension in the event of your death for so long as they meet the definition of an eligible child, this generally being under the age of 16 or, if in full-time education, under the age of 22.
 
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4. Does it make sense for me to invest more in my pension as a Single Scheme Member?

In 99% of cases the pension you will receive from the Single Scheme when you retire will be much smaller than the maximum pension revenue might have allowed you to have under Irish tax rules (unless you are a highly paid public servant e.g. 150K+ salary for most of your career).

You can invest more money in your pension to have a higher income in retirement or as a form of long-term investment.

Generally speaking, pensions are a great way to grow your wealth in Ireland compared to other long-term investment options because they grow without being taxed until you start to draw them down (allowing them to compound more effectively), you get tax relief on the contributions you make (this is like a loan from revenue you can earn money on) and you may pay less tax in retirement than you will when you’re working.

However, you need to consider whether it makes sense to invest more in your pension in light of your broader financial circumstances and objectives.

Generally speaking, in Ireland, your financial priorities should be to:
  • Eliminate any costly debt (2.5%+);
  • Purchase a home / save for a deposit, so that you are no longer paying exorbitant costs to rent property;
  • Have enough money to meet all your short-term and most of your medium-term financial needs, including utilities, family expenses and education costs, childcare, etc…
You may also wish to:
  • Invest in your education, so that you can increase your prospects of getting a better job and attaining a higher salary, promotions etc.
  • Travel if you’re a young person, before you settle down and find a partner etc…
It generally only make sense to consider long-term “investments” in Ireland, like investing in your pension, when factors like those described above are not present

It also generally only makes sense to invest more in your pension when you’re paying income tax at the 40% income tax rate rather than the 20% rate, unless you have a very long investment horizon (20+ years) or you don’t expect to ever pay tax at the 40% rate when you retire.

If you’ve considered all of the above and still think it’s a good idea to do some long-term investing, you’ll also want to consider other possible options.

For example, if you own a home, it may make sense to take the money you might have invested in a pension to pay off your mortgage early instead. See related discussed thread https://www.askaboutmoney.com/threa...ibute-to-pension-or-do-something-else.221401/ . You could also think about making your house more energy efficient.

Generally speaking, in Ireland it doesn’t make sense to invest in ETFs, life-insurance investment products etc… until you have maxed out your pension contributions and your mortgage has been paid off. Do not invest in Crypto, Gold, individual stocks, individual bonds etc… unless you love losing money and filing tax returns for your trouble.

If you decide to invest more in your pension you won’t be able to access the money till you retire. You should think really carefully about whether you might need that money for something else in the meantime.

If investing in your pension does make sense for you then one way you can do that is to set up an AVC or an AVC-PRSA (Please note the Single Scheme Purchase / Transfer Facility is discussed in section 9 below).

5. Additional Voluntary Contributions (AVCs)

Setting up an AVC is a way to invest more money in your pension

When you set up an AVC you make payments to a separate pension pot you can access when (and only when) you retire. This pension pot is invested in various funds that you choose and the money invested grows over time. You get tax relief on contributions you make to your AVC just like your normal pension contributions to the Single Scheme.

If you take a sensible investment approach over long periods of time it’s very likely you’ll end up with a lot more money than what you put in to your AVC. See the Callan Periodic Table of Investment Returns: https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Callan_periodic_table_of_investment_returns But, your capital is ultimately at risk. If this makes you uncomfortable you can read more about investing in general and try to learn about the differences between risks, volatility, different kinds of funds and asset classes (I quite like the Four Pillars of Investing by William Bernstein).

Not all AVCs are equal and you can source them from different providers and they have different advantages and disadvantages. The three main factors that will typically make one AVC better than another are: (i) Convenience; (ii) Fees and (iii) Fund Choice.

As a public servant you have two main options when deciding to make an AVC: the Cornmarket Route or with another provider / broker.

5.1 The Cornmarket Route

The public sector unions have negotiated deals on AVCs with a pension broker called “Cornmarket” (owned by Irish Life). You don’t need to be a union member to get these rates – you only need to be an employee of a public sector body signed up to the Forsa AVC / Equivalent Union AVC Pension Scheme (More on this below).

The two main advantages of going with Cornmarket for your AVC are:
  • Salary Deduction at Source. When you set up an AVC with Cornmarket deductions come straight out of your payslip. All tax issues are addressed without any further thinking on your part. You don’t need to worry about admin, filing tax returns with revenue etc….. This convenience has a lot of value and means you don’t really have to think too much about your AVC or remember to do anything.

  • Fees. Cornmarket has a favourable discount fee structure in place for certain public sector AVC schemes which means that you may pay significantly less fees compared to other providers. These Schemes are: AHCPS, ASTI, DCU, Fórsa (Civil Service), INTO, Local Authority & State Agency, Nurses and Other Health Professionals, SOLAS, TUI and UCD. Every euro you contribute each week / fortnight in these schemes will go into the pot (this is called 100% allocation). "One off" contributions will be subject to a 4% fee. On these schemes Cornmarket will also apply the following discount on the Annual Management Charges (AMC) for your pension pot each year:
    • Standard AMC on first €40,000
    • -0.25% AMC on the next €100,000
    • A further -0.25% AMC on the remainder of the pot.
This means if you have a AVC fund worth €300,000 and a fund’s standard AMC is 0.65% everything between €40,000 to €100,000 will have a 0.4% AMC and everything over €140,000 will have a 0.15% AMC. This is about as a good as it gets on personal pension contract fees in Ireland and will add up to huge savings over long investment horizons for pots that are more than modest (see Bogleheads post here for effects of fees on pension funds: https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/How_much_do_you_lose_to_annual_fees_after_many_years?). For reference, average rates for PRSA / PRSA AVCs in the Irish market for AVC-PRSAs hover around 1%.

So Cornmarket is (i) convenient and (ii) may have significantly smaller fees than other providers. What’s the catch?

Choice of Funds from Cornmarket

Cornmarket has default funds and strategies it tries to put public servants on when you take advice from them. These include the “cautious”, “balanced” and “adventurous” funds. The returns on these funds are pretty terrible compared to what you could have gotten by investing in something else.

You can invest in other Irish Life Funds when you set up an AVC through Cornmarket’s self-directed option by filling out the form on their website and posting it to them / making an online application (see here: https://www.cornmarket.ie/avc/). In the fund selection part of the form you can write in the funds you want to invest in and the % allocation and select what % of your salary you want to pay in the AVC each month. There’s a €100 fee to do this which comes out of your payslip over time. You also need to fill in a salary deduction form.

The trouble is that Cornmarket don’t publicise information about the other Irish Life funds that you can invest in very well and the fees you’ll be charged for each fund vary depending on the Public Sector AVC scheme you belong to. There’s no way to get this information without directly getting in touch with Cornmarket.

For example: the World Equity Index Fund is available on both the Forsa AVC Scheme and the ACHPS AVC Scheme. On the Forsa Scheme it has a standard AMC of 1% and on the AHCPS scheme it has a standard AMC of 0.65%.

Some of the funds that are currently available to invest in through the Forsa AVC Scheme as of Jan 2025 are:
  • Empower Cash Fund (1% AMC)
  • Exempt European Equity Indexed Fund (1% AMC)
  • Exempt North American Equity Fund (1% AMC)
  • Global Cash Fund (1% AMC)
  • Indexed Commodities Fund Cb (1.55% AMC)
  • Indexed Developed World Equities (1% AMC)
  • Indexed Emerging Markets Equity Fund (0.65% AMC)
  • Indexed Ethical Global Equity (0.75% AMC)
  • Indexed Fixed Interest Fund (1% AMC)
  • Indexed Global Equity Fund Series S (1% AMC)
  • Indexed World Equity Fund (1% AMC)
  • Socially Responsible Global Equities (1% AMC)
So you can see that the AMC on funds on the Forsa Scheme varies enough to potentially influence the decision you would make on how to allocate to them. The issue of how to allocate between different funds is touched on below in Section 7.

The AHCPS Scheme and other union schemes may not provide access to the funds listed above and may charge different standard fee rates for the same funds (they certainly do for the World Equity Indexed Fund).

So if you are minded to set up a self-directed AVC with Cornmarket before you do so you should shoot them an email (lifecustomerservice@cornmarket.ie; pubsec@irishlife.ie) stating the public service body you belong to asking:
  • What AVC Schemes are available to employees in your body? (Remember you don’t have to be a member of the union)
  • What Funds are available to invest in on those schemes?
  • What are the AMCs of the funds on the schemes available?
  • To provide up to date fact sheets for any of the funds you might be interested in investing in. Irish Life’s general fact sheets can be found on its fund centre on its website (https://www.irishlife.ie/investments/fund-prices-and-performance-investments) but they might not correspond to the particular fund that’s available for you to invest in your particular scheme.
This is the only way to know all of your options for sure. The self-directed / no advice form that Cornmarket uses doesn’t provide the right / full names of all of the funds you can invest in or their fees.

5.2 Going through another supplier / broker

Cornmarket will expectedly be the best option for most public servants if they are on the tiered AMC scheme and they can get access to good index funds at an AMC lower than 1% or so. The convenience of salary deduction will also weight into the equation.

However, you’re not bound to use Cornmarket and you can approach other providers to set up an AVC-PRSA.

For example, Execution-only.ie has some good deals on Royal London and Standard Life PRSA-AVCs with AMCs that start from 0.6% after a certain monthly contribution size and the potential for further rebates / discounts with Royal London.

Other suppliers / brokers could be very good for a public servant in some circumstances, such as:

(i) If you don’t like the Irish Life funds available on your scheme for whatever reasons;
(ii) The planned size of your AVC means you can’t properly avail of the Cornmarket discounts rates or
(iii) If the fees on funds available to you on your particular Cornmarket scheme aren’t great.

Administratively it is more burdensome to go this route because you have to either (i) claim tax relief at the end of the year (which will impact your cash flow) or (ii) fiddle around with your tax credits on revenue’s MyAccount system to simulate salary deductions.

An AVC PRSA can also be transferred to another provider more easily than a standard AVC (For a standard AVC you'd need to pay an actuary for a Certificate of Benefits Comparison to move to a PRSA AVC).

6. AVC Funding Limits

The amount of money that you can invest in an AVC is limited by certain caps imposed by revenue / legislation. Bad things can / will happen to you if you exceed them.

For Single Scheme members there are three main caps to be aware of:
  • The yearly age-related limit for tax relief;
  • The standard fund threshold;
  • The defined benefit salary limit.
Generally speaking there’s a large scope to invest in AVCs as a Single Scheme Member. You don’t really have to worry about caps 2 / 3 above unless you expect your AVC to be worth €500,000+ in today’s money or unless you have a very large pension from a former employer. If you follow some of the strategies in this thread over a 15/20+ year period you could end up with a very large AVC so best to be aware if that’s your investment time horizon and maybe check in if your AVC is performing well.

6.1 The Yearly Funding Limit

Revenue limits the amount of tax relief you can claim on pension contributions each year based on your age. The limits are set out below. The limits include your contributions to the Single Scheme on your payslip (typically 5-6% gross salary per annum) but do not include additional superannuation contribution (ASC)..

Age% limit of Gross Salary
Under 3015%
30-3920%
40-4925%
50-5430%
55-5935%
60 or over40%

So let’s say you’re thirty-eight years old and your Single Scheme contribution is 6% of your gross salary. This means you can get tax relief on contributions of 14% of your gross salary each year.

The yearly funding limit is also subject to a Salary Cap of €115,000.

So if you’re the same thirty-eight year old and your salary’s €150,000, you can only claim tax relief on 20% of €115,000.

Please note you can only claim tax relief on the tax you actually pay. Meaning: if you only pay a very small amount of tax at 40% you can only claim tax relief at the 40% rate on that amount.

Poster @gort_gráinneog has put together a great calculator here you can use to explore your yearly limits and to work out your net pay after contributions: https://www.askaboutmoney.com/threads/the-single-public-service-pension-scheme.236839/post-1889125

6.2 The Standard Fund Threshold

The Standard Fund Threshold (SFT) is the absolute cap on value of the pension benefits you can have in Ireland. This will be €2.8 million in 2030 and will increase in line with inflation thereafter. This includes the value of your Single Scheme Pension, your AVC and any pensions you have from previous employments.

I touch on calculating the value of your Single Scheme benefits under 6.3 below.

If you’re moustache-twirlingly rich enough that there’s a risk you’ll reach the SFT you should definitely speak to a good independent financial advisor. This might also be something to keep an eye on if you’ve been a senior public servant on a pre-2013 pension scheme for a very long time and for whatever reason you’ve switched to a position on the Single Scheme later in your career.

6.3 The Defined Benefit Salary Limit / Working out your AVC Funding Gap

This is the most complicated one to work out.

When you retire Revenue will allow you to have a pension (including Single Scheme Benefits + AVC) worth 2/3 of your final salary as a capitalised value, assuming you can complete ten years of service. A capitalised value just means how much an actuary would say this is worth as a lump sum in the present day. The following table illustrates this for Single Scheme members of different genders, marital statuses and at different salary levels providing you are able to serve at least 10 FTE years as a scheme member:

Gross SalaryFemale with no spouse or civil partnerFemale with spouse or civil partnerMale with no spouse or civil partnerMale with spouse or civil partner
25,000381150414150323400455400
50,000762300828300646800910800
75,000114345012424509702001366200
100,0001524600165660012936001821600
125,0001905750207075016170002150000+

You then need to work out your Pension Shortfall to find out how much you can invest in your AVC. This is:

[The maximum revenue limits for defined benefit pensions for your salary level - per table above].
minus
[The capitalised value of the pension benefits you would accumulate under the Single Scheme if you worked from now to age 66 at your current salary level]
plus
[The capitalised value of the benefits you have accumulated under the Single Scheme to date]

To get a rough idea of the capitalised value of the pension benefits you would accumulate under the Single Scheme if you worked from now to age 66 at your current salary level work through the following steps:

(Current Salary / 2) – 14500 = X
X * 0.025 * (Number of years till you reach age 66) * 25 = Capitalised value of referable pension from now to 66
Lump Sum Value = Current Salary * 0.0375 * (Number of years till you reach age 66)
Capitalised Value = Capitalised value of referable Pension still to earn + Lump Sum Value

To get a rough idea of the value of the benefits you have accumulated under the Single Scheme to date get your latest pension benefit statement received from your employer and multiply the accumulated referable pension by 25 and add the accumulated lump sum to the total.

Example

Let’s say Jimmy just joined the public service, has twenty years to go until he can retire at his normal retirement age (66) and is paid a static 75,000 for the duration of his career:

75,000 / 2 – 14500 = 23000
23000 * 0.025 * 20 * 25 = 287500
75000 * 0.0375 * 20 = 56250
287500+56250 = €343750

Jimmy isn’t married so his pension shortfall is 970200 – 343750 = €626,450. His pension shortfall would increase by about €400,000 if he got married.

In reality Jimmy’s salary would not stay static over the twenty years but would increase significantly with increments, promotions and general public service pay increases. Let’s say Jimmy started getting paid €75,000 a year and ended up getting paid €125,000 at the end of the twenty-year period. Under current rules his maximum pension at that point would be 1,617,000 if he’s single and 2,150,000+ if he’s married.

7. AVC strategies to consider (Read this if TLDR)

Generally speaking, it’s a good idea to invest aggressively in AVCs as a Single Scheme member if you can. This is because investing early means you can make the most out of compound interest and tax relief to grow your wealth over your career. You can always reduce how much you contribute to your AVC later on in your career if it makes sense at the time. As discussed in the above section, the risk of overfunding on the Single Scheme is generally quite low but you should be aware of revenue limits.

Because the funds available to you and their fees vary for different public service schemes / across different providers it's difficult to make specific suggestions on how to allocate your AVC but there are some general principles you could follow to keep things simple (see section 5 on different AVC options).

You should invest in two kinds of funds: Equity Index Funds and Bond Index Funds. Ideally these would be as global as possible to ensure diversification. An index / passive fund is a fund that buys and sells investments based on their value in the market rather than one which has a fund manager that actively tries to beat long-term markets returns.

Irish Life Global Equity Index funds that would fit the bill and which may be available via Cornmarket AVC schemes include:
  • Indexed Developed World Equities
  • Indexed Ethical Global Equity
  • Indexed World Equity Fund
All things being equal, one of the funds above with the lowest fee on your scheme is probably a good shout as the equity portion of your portfolio. The Ethical Global Equity fund will provide slightly less diversification overall because it screens out about 100 companies from the index it tracks involved in some not so great stuff (chemical weapons) etc… but this fund has actually outperformed other Irish Life funds not insignificantly over the past five years. This is mostly because the fund is a bit more heavily weighted towards tech stocks rather than anything intrinsic to the benefits of ESG. You can see a comparison of the performance of the index the ethical global equity fund tracks vs the index the indexed world equity fund tracks here: https://www.msci.com/documents/10199/255599/msci-world-esg-screened-index-usd-net.pdf

An Emerging Markets Fund (e.g. the indexed emerging markets equity fund) might also be good for a bit of diversification with the above funds if you have a 20+ year investment time horizon but should never be more than 10-20% of your allocation (and probably only included if the fees for it are very good on your plan).

Global Equity Index funds have previously delivered around 10% PA per year over long periods of time before inflation/ fees are taken into account. €10,000 compounding at 10% PA for thirty years becomes €175,000. This would be a quite optimistic scenario and sages have predicted equities will generally deliver less over the next few decades (https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Historical_and_expected_returns).

For your bond fund you ideally want something focusing on bonds of five years or less. From the Irish Life selection of bond funds the only one that seems good in terms of ensuring diversification / growth is the Indexed Fixed Interest Fund. Bond funds deliver less returns than equities overall but act as a nice diversification counterweight if equities take nose dives periodically over long investment horizons as they are prone to do. They’ll also help to preserve the value of your AVC as you get closer to retirement.

As a general rule, you should weight your AVC more towards equities if you have a longer investment horizon and a bit more towards bonds if you have a shorter investment horizon. Allocating portions of your portfolio to cash etc…. may be helpful if you’re close to retirement (e.g. five years) but drawing down your pension etc.. is a bit out of scope of this thread.

Finally, you should generally only be investing in AVCs if you’re getting 40% tax relief on the contributions you make unless you still have 20+ years to retire or you expect not to be paying a 40% income tax rate in retirement. Also – don’t invest in an AVC if your contributions only receive 20% tax relief and you have a mortgage to pay off.

Examples

Assuming that:
  • You have assessed you’re in a position to make long-term investments and investing in your pension is a good long-term investment option compared to the other options you have available
  • You are neither a consultant doctor nor some other similarly extremely highly paid public servant;
  • You do not already have significant pension benefits from previous employment;
  • You don’t have any other financial circumstances or personal situations that would affect you decision to invest
….. here are some examples of how you could approach setting up an AVC based on different scenarios and subject to revenue contribution limits.

Example 1

If you’re a Single Scheme Member with more than twenty years before you plan to retire you could set up an AVC and invest as much as you can afford 100% into an equity index fund.

Once you have ten to fifteen years to retire you could re-evaluate your situation. Depending on your financial circumstances, it may make sense to continue investing in equities or a mix of equities and bonds. You may also want to up or reduce the amount you’re investing depending on the growth of your AVC.

Example 2

If you are a Single Scheme member with 20-10 years to retire you could set up an AVC allocated 80% in a global equity index fund and 20% in an index bond fund. Maybe 70/30 if you’re closer to go to retirement.

You can probably ram as much money into your AVC as you like before you retire (but again watch out for the yearly limits on contributions).

Example 3

If you’re a Single Scheme Member that’s planning on retiring early you should be ramming as much money into your AVC as possible as early as possible. You could invest 70 / 30 in equities / bonds if your investment horizon's 15 years or so.

Example 4

If you're doing a very late AVC (e.g. 5 years out from retirement) look elsewhere about how to maximise your benefits before you retire.
 
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8. Early Retirement on the Single Scheme

You can retire from as early as age 55 on the Single Scheme. Your Single Scheme benefits will be reduced in accordance with the table here, so long as the State Pension Age remains 66:

Age at Last BirthdayPension ReductionLump Sum
5569%97%
5671%97%
5773%97%
5876%98%
5978%98%
6081%98%
6184%98%
6286%99%
6390%99%
6493%99%
6596%99%
66100%100%

You can use AVCs to support an early retirement but you cannot use AVCs to fund for an early retirement, specifically. In other words, you cannot invest more money in an AVC than you otherwise would have been entitled to invest had you worked till your normal retirement age. The revenue limits on investing in AVCs still applies. See recommendations above. Please all note that you must have ten-years service before you’re entitled to the max pension size under revenue rules (Note - could someone double check this for me?).

If you have money in an AVC this is not actuarily reduced if you take early retirement.

9. The Single Scheme Purchase Facility

The Single Scheme has a facility where you can purchase additional benefits on a “cost-neutral” basis or convert existing pensions to Single Scheme benefits. More information can be found here: https://singlepensionscheme.gov.ie/...der-the-single-public-service-pension-scheme/.

The main details of the facility are as follows:
  • Benefits can be purchased directly (the purchase facility) or by transfer from revenue approved pension products such as AVCs, PRSAs (the transfer facility).
  • Benefits purchased through the purchase or transfer facility are considered equivalent to benefits you ordinarily earn through the scheme.
    • To be eligible for the purchase facility, you must be a member of the Single Scheme and have:
    • Completed the two year vesting period
    • Have the potential to complete a period of 9 FTE years as a member of the Single Scheme by the time you reach normal retirement age;
  • You can buy referrable pension or lump sum. Purchase agreements are made on a twelve month basis. Normal pension can be purchased by way lump sum payment only.
  • A calculator to work out how much it would cost to purchase benefits is available here: https://singlepensionscheme.gov.ie/...me-member-purchase-transfer-calculation-tool/
  • If you purchase benefits by way of transfer (e.g. from an AVC, PRSA), you’ll lose any money that brings you over the revenue maximum pension benefit limits.
  • You can only buy benefits that you might have ordinarily earned under the scheme had you maintained a more consistent salary level, not had gaps in service (e.g. due to career break) or started your career in the public service earlier.
These are the reasons why it's not so great.
  • Essentially, what the facility allows you to do is pre-purchase state-backed annuities before retiring. These annuities grow in line with inflation. Purchasing annuities in this way means you forego investing the same amount of money in an AVC.
  • If the growth you can get through an AVC is enough to beat inflation (it is), then investing in AVCs first and then transferring the AVC Pot over to the facility will mean you can buy more pension benefits for the same amount of money.
  • If you take cost-neutral early retirement, the benefits you’ve purchased through the purchase facility will be actuarially reduced.
  • If you cease to be a Scheme Member before nine years have passed, the full cost of all ordinary pension amounts purchased under the purchase facility must be refunded. Money refunded reflects the cost of payment at the time of purchase. Interest is not payable on these refunds (!!!!!!). This doesn't appear to apply for money that has been transferred from another pension product.
Purchasing benefits through the Single Scheme purchase facility should probably only be considered towards the end of your career, and definitely not earlier than nine years after you’ve been a scheme member. It might not make sense at all, depending on the rate you have to pay for benefits. Poster @CharlieMac describes enquiries he's made about using your AVC to purchase benefits in the scheme later in your career here.

10. Key Differences Between the Single Scheme and older Irish Public Service Pension Schemes

Benefits under older Irish public service pension schemes were calculated based on your final salary rather than your salary at the time you make pension contributions. This lead to higher pensions over the course of a career, particularly where someone got promotions later on in their career.

The Single Scheme does not have a forty-year cap on service or benefits.

Public servants in the older schemes pay a much higher rate of ASC than members of the Single Scheme (€0 to €34,500 – 0%; €34,500 – €60,000 – 10%; €60,000+ – 10.5%). The following table illustrates the net salary difference as a result of this:

Gross SalaryASC (Single Scheme Member)ASC (Old Scheme Member)Net Salary difference of Single Scheme Member vs. Old Scheme Members per year after tax relief
25,000000
50,0005101550624
75,000137041251653
100,000224065502586
125,000312090503558

As can be seen from the table above, prior to retirement, members of the Single Scheme will be better off than their non-Single Scheme cohorts because they pay less for their pension. The difference is effectively a decent salary bump for Single Scheme members.

If you begin the public service at a high grade (AP and above) or if you only ever planned to join the public service for a very short period, you may technically be able to do better on the Single Scheme than on the old scheme. But this is comparing apples to oranges.

In the old schemes pension benefits are uprated in line with the principle of pay parity rather than inflation. In essence, the benefits you’d receive under the old scheme would be linked to the grade you retire at and are uprated to be similar to people at the same grade working in the present day.

Under older schemes you can retire at 60 / 65 years old without a penalty to your final pension benefits.

You do not “buy back years” on the Single Scheme if you’ve been on a career break, unpaid maternity leave etc. There is an option to purchase benefits through the Single Scheme Purchase facility … but this sucks. See above.
 
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What happens if you do not get the contributory pension as you do not have 520 contributions or do not get full pension?
 
What happens if you do not get the contributory pension as you do not have 520 contributions or do not get full pension?
The benefits you get under the single scheme are separate to your state pension – see section 3 above. There's no such thing as a "full pension" under the Single Scheme as such. You bank benefits over the course of your career.
 
just wanted to post to say thanks for this thread.

i don't really understand the retiring at 55 but not being able to max fund AVCs.

i was given advise that it matures when you avail of the scheme.

can i pull 1/4 out tax free at 55 as a public servant or do i still need to wait until 65+?
 
just wanted to post to say thanks for this thread.

i don't really understand the retiring at 55 but not being able to max fund AVCs.

i was given advise that it matures when you avail of the scheme.

can i pull 1/4 out tax free at 55 as a public servant or do i still need to wait until 65+?

My understanding is that to calculate the amount you can invest in an AVC if you're retiring early you would have to extrapolate your Single Scheme pension to what it would be if you worked to your normal retirement age. The shortfall that you can fund through an AVC is the difference between the max pension you could have for your salary level minus the value of your single scheme pension extrapolated to NRA but @Conan is the resident expert around here on this!

With your Single Scheme Pension + AVC you will only be able to have a lump sum of 1.5X your final salary. Any lump sum below €200,000 you will pay no tax on and anything above will be taxed at 20%. The lump sum you can take may be lower if you're retiring earlier - you have to be in the scheme for 20 years before you can claim 1.5 salary I think.

You should be able to draw down your lump sum from your AVC at whatever age you decide to retire at.
 
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Also - just to say it is possible to get the same effect as a salary deductions for investing in non-cornmarket pension products by fiddling around with your tax credits / tax certificate information on Revenue's my account service (I haven't done this, but if someone wanted to explain how they could).
PAYE Employee: Through logging into 'My Account':

Steps as follows for current tax year:
  • Click on 'Manage your tax 2024'
  • Select 'Add new credits'
  • Select 'Your Job' - Select Pension type i.e. AVC, PRSA, RAC (personal Pension)
  • You may wish to complete any other reliefs /credit here.
    Then Click 'Next'.
  • You will be required to complete details of payment and estimate of earnings for current year (2024)
Once completed, the tax credits will be populated on screen (at equivalent of 20% income tax relief) and where tax relief due at 40%, the additional 20% will be allocated as an increase in the standard rate cut off point.

For the previous tax year(s) the process is similar however you need to:
  • click on 'Review your tax' for the appropriate year
  • Request 'Statement of Liability'
  • Click on 'Complete Income tax return'
  • In the 'tax credits & Reliefs' page select 'Your Job'
  • Complete and submit (for processing)

Whether applying pension contributions against current year or previous year within 'Pay and file' date, you will be required to either upload a copy of pension certificate or provide details (a template of a declaration)

Cornmarket's fees are actually much better than originally explained in the OP. Their promotional material makes it seem like all funds start with a 1% AMC but you can actually get access to funds with a lower starting AMC and the discount then applies to that.
Really unfortunate that there isn't a document available (that I can find anyway?) that confirms this. At a minimum, some policy terms and conditions, a breakdown of the other fund charges or the commission payable.
 
Fantastic post @Ent319 - Should this be a Key Post in the Public sector pensions threads? @Brendan Burgess

I'm uploading to this thread as well the calculator I put together for the previous thread. This is a net pay calculator for SPSPS members, it includes a max AVC calc too.
Thank you to all contributing to this excellent thread.

@gort_gráinneog Can you please give some more explanation about how to fill in the items in the blue box in your spreadsheet AVC contribution calculator?

Standard Rate band - If my salary is €84k then what do I put in here? Is it €0.40 for 40%?
Annual Tax Credits - Where do I get these? How do I enter them?
Cycle to Work - What is this for?
Credit Union - What would one put in here and why?
Union - Is this maybe the amount I pay as a subscription to a workplace Union?
Income Continuance - What would go in here?

Thank you.
 
Thank you to all contributing to this excellent thread.

@gort_gráinneog Can you please give some more explanation about how to fill in the items in the blue box in your spreadsheet AVC contribution calculator?

Standard Rate band - If my salary is €84k then what do I put in here? Is it €0.40 for 40%?
Annual Tax Credits - Where do I get these? How do I enter them?
Cycle to Work - What is this for?
Credit Union - What would one put in here and why?
Union - Is this maybe the amount I pay as a subscription to a workplace Union?
Income Continuance - What would go in here?

Thank you.
No problem

Standard Rate band - This is your rate band according to your Tax Credit Certificate. For 2024, a single person with no adjustment the rate band is €42,000.

Annual Tax Credits - This is the amount of your tax credits according to your Tax Credit Certificate. For 2024, a standard single person would have €3,750.

Cycle to Work - This is only if you're availing of the Cycle to Work scheme and have a relevant deduction for this. This is only if you do this, otherwise leave blank or enter 0.

Credit Union - Many people pay directly into their Credit Union account from payroll. This is only if you do this, otherwise leave blank or enter 0.

Union - If you're a member of a union, generally you pay your membership as a percentage of your salary. If you are a member you can input what that percentage is here. For example 0.5% or 1%. If you are not a member, leave blank or enter 0.

Income Continuance - Many people pay into an Income Continuance scheme and similar to the union membership, it is generally charged at a percentage of your salary. There is tax relief available on this and it's built into the calculator. You only need to input the percentage charge of the scheme. For example 0.57% or 0.75%. If you do not pay into an Income Continuance scheme, leave blank or enter 0.

I hope this helps. I think you should refer to your Tax Credit Certificate which is available within the My Documents folder/heading of your myAccount profile on revenue.ie. It will inform you of your amount of rate band and tax credits.
 
In relation to the option to purchase referable amounts on the Single Pension Scheme by way of transferring a AVC PRSA...

From what is stated in one of the earlier posts in this thread and in Circular 15/2019 if you purchase referable amounts by way of transferring an AVC PRSA then the amount in that fund that is in excess of that required to purchase the benefits is forfeited.

Maybe I don't fully understand this but I wonder why did they make that rule?

If in time I manage to build a sizeable AVC PRSA I would like the option to split that in to two... one would be just enough to purchase all the Single Pension Scheme referable amounts I am entitled to by way of transferring that AVC PRSA. Then the other AVC PRSA perhaps I would convert to an ARF.

Again I might be misunderstanding this. The only reason I would hope to do this is to avoid that ridiculous rule that makes you forfeit some of your fund when you purchase by way of transfer.

I have emailed the Single Pension Scheme they told me to contact my local pensions office I emailed them twice and got no answer. I have also emailed Irish Life/Cornmarket twice and also got no answer. This weekend I emailed the Pensions Authority and I won't hold my breath. For what it's worth I asked ChatGPT who is adamant that it is possible to split one AVC PRSA into multiple PRSAs if needed. Must be true so!

Can anyone confirm if an AVC fund can be split in two? Say I was paying in to one for 10 years and right before I retire I want to split it in two then, is that possible?

Lastly what is the benefit of paying in to an AVC PRSA over putting a percentage of your salary in to a regular PRSA? Sounds like a normal PRSA can definitely be split in two.

Cheers.
 
Hi folks apologies for the delay in responding to some of your queries. Have been doing research on different options for AVCs and have asked @Brendan Burgess to grant me edit privileges so that I can amend / update the OP. Main focus of the update will be AVC Options / Funds available from Cornmarket / AVC strategies. This should answer various outstanding Qs.
 
Hi @Ent319, Great work. Congratulations! But if you are doing an update just to note that there appears to be an error here:

Under the old scheme you can retire at 60 years old without a penalty to your final pension benefits.

Under pre-2004 schemes this is so. But for the "New Entrants" Scheme (post-2004 but pre-2013) a member has to be 65 to access the pension without penalty (excepting some "uniformed grades").
 
Hi everyone,

Just posting with that update.

Sections 4 - 7 of the OP have now been overhauled to reflect updated information gathered about the availability of different funds and fees charged by Cornmarket across different public sector AVC schemes:
  • The basic suggestion now is that before setting up an AVC with Cornmarket you email them to get the details of the schemes that are available to you, funds available and AMC charges.
  • Section 5 now explores the Cornmarket AVC Route and its advantages vs. the alternative broker / provider route. The 100% net allocation issue and how Cornmarket's AMC discount works has now been specifically confirmed with them.
  • Section 6 on AVC funding limits has been simplified.
  • Section 7 on strategy suggestions has been amended to provide more useful information and to hopefully help people decide on how to allocate between stocks vs. bonds.
I have also asked for Brendan's assistance to tidy up a few posts in the thread that covered earlier discussions points (which have now been clarified) but if anyone wants to post anything again please feel free.

As always, if people have any feedback / feel something needs to be corrected please feel free to raise the point.
 
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In relation to the option to purchase referable amounts on the Single Pension Scheme by way of transferring a AVC PRSA...

From what is stated in one of the earlier posts in this thread and in Circular 15/2019 if you purchase referable amounts by way of transferring an AVC PRSA then the amount in that fund that is in excess of that required to purchase the benefits is forfeited.

Maybe I don't fully understand this but I wonder why did they make that rule?

The idea behind the Single Scheme was to try to minimise the burden of public service pensions on the Irish tax payer. Interpreting the rule in this context could suggest that it is designed to disincentivise people from using the facility to increase their public service pensions. It could also be something funny to do with how the legislation works.

Can anyone confirm if an AVC fund can be split in two? Say I was paying in to one for 10 years and right before I retire I want to split it in two then, is that possible?
I don't believe a standard AVC can be split into separate funds (this was the original meaning of my post) but this is beyond my pensions knowledge. Maybe a PRSA-AVC can. You could always start an AVC or an AVC-PRSA with a provider and then in six months time ask for it to be split. That way you'd know for sure.
Lastly what is the benefit of paying in to an AVC PRSA over putting a percentage of your salary in to a regular PRSA? Sounds like a normal PRSA can definitely be split in two.
If you're in public service employment any additional pension pot you set up in relation to that employment must be an AVC or AVC-PRSA connected to your main pension scheme. I believe if you are in active employment in another role simultaneously with your public service role you would be able to set up a separate PRSA in respect of that employment.
 
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