Paul O Mahoney
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I thought it was Biontech who bought that plant to make about 500m doses.Pfizer have also bought a Novartis plant in Germany for the production of the vaccine.
I’m not sure if the production from this plant is included in their calculations, of enough vaccine for 8% of world’s population by by end of 2021.
Agreed,One thing to remember about the vaccine whoever the manufacturer is that there is a waiting period for it to give you protection against Covid.
You still have to mind yourself for a certain period.
The more I think about the Pfizer vaccine the more sceptical I get.
It a nutshell, if you contract Covid-19, it’ll make it asymptomatic. That’s it. Not that that in itself is a bad thing. You won’t be sick and you won’t die from Covid. However, you won’t have antibodies (AFAIK) and it won’t prevent you from passing on the virus.
This last point is worth considering. It’ll be very difficult to achieve herd immunity with the Pfizer vaccine.
Sorry, I should clarify my point:
It’s not so much that it makes you asymptomatic, but there appears to be no difference between someone that has contracted Covid and is asymptomatic and someone who has been Pfizer vaccinated and then exposed to the virus.
...there appears to be no difference between someone that has contracted Covid and is asymptomatic and someone who has been Pfizer vaccinated and then exposed to the virus.
You hold all the worries you want Dude because reading this you clearly have no idea what you are saying.The more I think about the Pfizer vaccine the more sceptical I get.
It a nutshell, if you contract Covid-19, it’ll make it asymptomatic. That’s it. Not that that in itself is a bad thing. You won’t be sick and you won’t die from Covid. However, you won’t have antibodies (AFAIK) and it won’t prevent you from passing on the virus.
This last point is worth considering. It’ll be very difficult to achieve herd immunity with the Pfizer vaccine.
The TB vaccine (or inoculation?) prevents you (where effective) from getting TB and from passing it on. Hence TB is very rare and very difficult to contract. Herd immunity is very high.
There are many more vaccines in the pipeline. By this time next year I’d say we’ll have forgotten about the Pfizer vaccine.
They are very sanguine on this given that the virus can't live without its spike protein that allows attachment to our cells.I think you might have misunderstood the reporting. There is currently no proof that the Pfizer vaccine prevents onward transmission - because they didn't specifically test for that yet. It would take a lot longer to test for that. But there is hope that it will reduce onward transmission
The flu vaccine doesn't prevent otherpeople from getting the flu but its rolled out in its billions every year.
I'll try, the flu like covid spreads by airborne droplets, if a vaccinated person is amongst a group of people, or the general population they are unlikely to be the cause of passing on the flu, however they don't/can't prevent others from contracting the flu either from other sources like the general public.Can you clarify that ... Everything I have read suggests the flu vaccine does significantly reduce spread from a vaccinated person exposed to the virus (maybe because they are not hit with symptoms that trigger viral shedding)
If the vaccine protects the vaccinated person that is - not counting when the strain wasnt in the vaccine.
I'll try, the flu like covid spreads by airborne droplets, if a vaccinated person is amongst a group of people, or the general population they are unlikely to be the cause of passing on the flu, however they don't/can't prevent others from contracting the flu either from other sources like the general public.
The primary function of the flu vaccine is to prevent those most vulnerable from getting it and dying from it , its not designed to pass on immunity.
However if a high enough percentage of the population has the flu vaccine the virus can't spread as easily as most of the potential hosts are vaccinated.
Does that make sense the virus is ever present any vaccine protects those vaccinated and those whos natural immune systems are strong enough to fend off the virus themselves also prevents a virus spreading.
Maybe this might be easier....
If you had 2 groups of 10 people one group had a person with covid with no symptoms the other with a vaccinated person, which group would be more likely to become infected?
I'm not certain but I thought read they actually did this in trials.
I honestly read it somewhere, it wouldn't be in brain otherwise, I can see in my mind the rooms in cartoon type, visualisation of the data type of presentation.I havent seen any trials that looked at that scenario. Would be great if we had data on it but it sounds like a challenge trial and I dont think they have even started yet.
I dont think any trial data released yet looks at onward transmission, main focus was on illness prevention.
Some looked at infection prevention by checking for viral load in vaccinated subjects v non vaxxed.
The mRna vaccines only need the genetic sequence of covid to get your Rna to message your T cells, doesn't actually need any physical piece of the virus.I heard one expert on the radio during the week saying that there is no "live" Covid in the vaccine. Then yesterday on the Claire Byrne show another expert said that there was live Covid in the vaccine. Which is it?
Some vaccines not mRna use live attenuated virus or dead virus, the live attenuated types reduces the potency of the virus and your immune system generates an immune response.I heard one expert on the radio during the week saying that there is no "live" Covid in the vaccine. Then yesterday on the Claire Byrne show another expert said that there was live Covid in the vaccine. Which is it?
Its just the first batch from our allocation, the EU negotiated on the members behalf .Does anyone know why Ireland is only getting a first delivery of 10,000 vaccines.
Can we not store anymore?
Did we under order?
We we only allocated this amount?
If we are getting delivery on the 26th why are we waiting to the end of the month before the roll out?
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