Of course they do, however their job is to ignore any issues and get the best deal for their members, denying everything and anything. The problem is that the government will just bend over for them.
Of course they do, however their job is to ignore any issues and get the best deal for their members, denying everything and anything. The problem is that the government will just bend over for them.the unions have no understanding of economics and inflation.
This is true but the owner takes the risk (and their house could be the thing that they risk). The other thing to remember is that even if they don't loose everything there is a good chance that their business will not pan out as planned and they struggle for years to make it work.With respect, even if those people who are paying thier staff more them themselves is a fact, this is usually short term and in the long run if the business is sucessful then they get the rewards.
I do not think that "worker and owner striving towards one mutually beneficial economic nirvana" but skilled people have to be looked after in an SME and this means that they are often in a strong position to negotiate their pay and conditions. You must also remember that if a small business goes under the owner is usually hit hardest.And tell the rest of the speel to the workers in Hibernian who lost their jobs. Replace miner with call centre worker. Your nieve idealism of the worker and owner striving towards one mutually benifical economic nirvana is pretty cosy until thier is a downturn and then no amount of worker efficency will save them from the chop.
Again Jimbon if the public sector was streamlined down to an inch of our lives this country would still be caught by the short and curlies economiclly. Its external economic factors im afraid.
Gradual rise in interest rates
Credit crunch
India and China
etc etc etc
I do not think that "worker and owner striving towards one mutually beneficial economic nirvana" but skilled people have to be looked after in an SME and this means that they are often in a strong position to negotiate their pay and conditions. You must also remember that if a small business goes under the owner is usually hit hardest.
All very true, and what this thread should be about, but just because other factors have more of an effect on the economy it doesn’t mean the public sector should not be as streamlined and efficient as possible.
He gets another unskilled job at minimum wage or he upskills. By the way, most average joes are skilled.What about the unskilled average joe. What happens to him????
Last round of benchmarking what was in it for the public sector. Pensions were taken into account so stop whinging about that one.
Aggreed. Can some one tell that to jimbob
With respect, even if those people who are paying thier staff more them themselves is a fact, this is usually short term and in the long run if the business is sucessful then they get the rewards.
Not true. Only last week I was talking to the owner of a very well known and long running Dublin company. They closed down last year for that very reason. It was just not worth their time and effort running it any more.
television - ok times are slow economically now. why cant the public sector streamline like other businesses and make people redundant? they can be re hired when the economy turns up again, this is the way the world works. if the country is in real trouble then the non nationals will leave and we wont need all the admin staff at all in the public sector so there is no reason why they cant be fired!!
Television, in fairness to you I recognise that other posters have facilitated your desire to talk about your own particular interests. Still, it's depressing that the last 5 pages have been about the PS when that is just 1 element in the current meltdown.
This can be done through volentary redundencies. A sizable amount of the public sector are part time so I suggest this is going to happen.
Trouble is, public or private- voluntary redundancies are a blunt instrument. In general you tend to loose the best, because they are the ones who are in demand and can move with ease. The people with the least drive won't move. Of course people will stay because they like the job too. But a blunt instrument it is.
I think that is a very unfair comment. I have repeatedly said that this recession is about factors other than the public service ineffeciency. I have highlighted this throughout. I am not the one blaming the public service and constantly harping back to it as the main cause of the economic problems.
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