Colm Fagan
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I agree. Short-term trading is something I know nothing about. A personal opinion is that it should be almost impossible to make money from this activity, especially when you allow for bid-offer spread. What USP does a private individual have playing this game? I have similar thoughts on @SlurrySlump 's suggested strategy.it's not what I was referring to with Colm or Brendan , they aren't out to scalp the market and pick up a few pips here and there they are taking a decision over a longer time span.
Obviously I disagree. As I said in an earlier reply, you're right 99% of the time, but there are rare occasions when it's possible to say that the market is blatantly wrong.every short you take or Brendan is a coin flip
Brendan, I hope that, like me, you would have been able to ride out the craziness and have come out intact the other side. The people who can't ride out the craziness are professional fund managers who have to keep their investors and boards of directors happy. We don't have those constraints.I am glad that I didn't, as I would have been burnt badly as crazy valuations became even crazier.
You're right 99% of the time, but there are rare occasions when the market is blatantly wrong. Tesla's current valuation is one of those times (in my opinion, of course!). Its share price is almost all hype by people who know nothing about finance; they just think Tesla = green = good, irrespective of the price.
Obviously I disagree. As I said in an earlier reply, you're right 99% of the time, but there are rare occasions when it's possible to say that the market is blatantly wrong.
I went back over past diary entries (all of which can be found somewhere on AAM, or more conveniently on my website www.colmfagan.ie) to check how many times I opined that the market was blatantly wrong on a stock.
The ones I found were as follows:
On 4/10/2015 I wrote that I thought Renishaw was substantially undervalued at £20. It rose to over £50 last year. Its current share price is £38.
On 6/12/2015 I wrote that I thought Apple was substantially undervalued at $117. Its current price is $266.
On 7/1/2019 I wrote that Phoenix Group Holdings was "particularly undervalued" at £5.71. Its current price is £7.19 (and its main attraction was the dividend of over 7%, which has to be added to the above return).
On 17/11/2019 I wrote that Tesla was grossly overvalued at $350. Of course, I could be wrong, as I have been many times in the past, but I don't recall ever being proved wrong when I held a view as strongly as I do now.
Brendan, sorry for not getting back to you on this earlier. As you know, I have a concentrated portfolio, for both long and short positions. At end June, gross (negative) Tesla exposure was under 3% of my total long portfolio. Now the percentage is above 8%, partly due to the price rise, partly to my decision to add to the short position as the price rose. I'm still quite comfortable about my exposure. It's outside the top five in absolute terms.What is your exposure as a percentage of your portfolio?
if you had of bought the S&P 500 it was at 1950 at Start of October 2015 now its 3122
I'm surprised and disappointed, though, that there wasn't even a single question or challenge on any of the six paragraphs of what I thought was readily accessible analysis of Tesla's finances and strategy.
if you had of bought the S&P 500 it was at 1950 at Start of October 2015 now its 3122
On 7/1/2019 the day you bought Pheonix group or wrote about them the S&P 500 was 2596 now 3122
I agree with both of you at one level, but at another level, I use prices of individual stocks as guides to tell me, not only if their prices are too low/high, but also (in some cases) as proxies for whether the market as a whole is too low or too high. Thus, I can use them as wider 'buy' or 'sell' signals. Possibly, one can extrapolate from my Tesla valuation that not only Tesla, but the overall market, is a bit stretched.That is a really good point for all stock pickers to think about.
In that case, how do you assess the success or otherwise of your stock picking strategy? Genuine question.I am too lazy to do the exact calculations.
I accept it as a genuine question.In that case, how do you assess the success or otherwise of your stock picking strategy? Genuine question.
Do you know something about my state of senility that my nearest and dearest are afraid to tell me? I presume you know the theory that, if I just sit on my hands and do nothing (which is my default mode) then the expectation is that I will do exactly the same as the market. I would 'genuinely' love to know why you think I will do 'spectacularly worse than the market'.I genuinely think that over a longer period you will do spectacularly worse than the market.
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