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I don't think that this financial arrangement is intended as punishment but rather them being compelled by the court to meet their financial obligations to their adopted child.SteelBlue05 said:from Rte.ie..
"The Dowses will also pay an immediate lump sum of €20,000 and a monthly payment of €350 until Tristan reaches 18.
Half of the monthly payment will go directly to Tristan's mother, while the remainder will go into a capital account for Tristan's benefit.
These payments will increase in accordance with the Consumer Price Index. The court has also ordered the payment of an additional lump sum of €25,000 payable when the boy reaches 18 years."
I think thats a reasonable punishment
Are you familiar with inheritance laws in Indonesia? Whether you consider it fair or not his claim on the adoptive parents' estate was secured once the adoption took place.but I think it is unfair for the boy to retain rights of succession to the estates of his adoptive parents. Now I am not for a second trying to defend what the adoptive parents did but it seems to me that the boy now has succession rights to the estates of his natural parents and also his once adoptive parents.
Marion said:The child carries an Irish passport. So, I would suspect that Irish/EU succession laws would apply?
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I thought the law is that that the spouse gets two-thirds and the offspring one-third between them. Or can that be altered a. if the offspring are adults? b. you make a will saying otherwise, even if the children are minors?dam099 said:Irish succession law does not impose any obligation to leave anything to children unless the child can make a case they were not provided for adequately while a child so unless thats what the judge is indicating making a will leaving everything to someone else would make the succession rights irrelevant.
Gordanus said:I thought the law is that that the spouse gets two-thirds and the offspring one-third between them. Or can that be altered a. if the offspring are adults? b. you make a will saying otherwise, even if the children are minors?
They did not "abandon" the child. They left him (back) in an orphanage - just like thousands of Irish mothers were forced to do in the past.Purple said:If the adoption is legal then the adoptive parents should be in prison for abandoning their child.
They did not "abandon" the child. They left him (back) in an orphanage
abandon
a·ban·don ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-bndn)
tr.v. a·ban·doned, a·ban·don·ing, a·ban·dons
To withdraw one's support or help from, especially in spite of duty, allegiance, or responsibility; desert: abandon a friend in trouble.
To give up by leaving or ceasing to operate or inhabit, especially as a result of danger or other impending threat: abandoned the ship.
To surrender one's claim to, right to, or interest in; give up entirely. See Synonyms at relinquish.
leave ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lv)
v. left, (lft) leav·ing, leaves
v. tr.
To go out of or away from: not allowed to leave the room.
To go without taking or removing: left my book on the bus.
To omit or exclude: left out the funniest part of the story.
To have as a result, consequence, or remainder: The car left a trail of exhaust fumes. Two from eight leaves six.
To cause or allow to be or remain in a specified state: left the lights on.
To have remaining after death: left a young son.
To bequeath: left her money to charity.
To give over to another to control or act on: Leave all the details to us.
To abandon or forsake: leave home; left her husband.
To remove oneself from association with or participation in: left the navy for civilian life.
To give or deposit, as for use or information, upon one's departure or in one's absence: He left a note for you. Leave your name and address.
To cause or permit to be or remain: left myself plenty of time.
Nonstandard. To allow or permit; letg to continue; desist from: abandoned the search for the missing hiker.
To yield (oneself) completely, as to emotion.
...hardly a valid comparison as Mr & Mrs Dowse did not lack the financial resources to support Tristan. Nor were they "forced" in any way to do what they did....just like thousands of Irish mothers were forced to do in the past.
I find that comparison obscene.Allen said:They did not "abandon" the child. They left him (back) in an orphanage - just like thousands of Irish mothers were forced to do in the past.
kazbah said:I find it abhorrent that you feel to compare mothers relinquishing babies due to circumstances in Ireland in the past to the Dowses returning Tristan is a fair comparision.
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