I had a messy year in 2007 as I was on Jobseeker's Benefit for 5 months, then when I started a new job my employer didn't take my Jobseeker's Benefit earnings into consideration and applied 2006 tax credits & standard rate cut off. I also exercised stock options.
I emailed Revenue in January 2007 listing the above 3 reasons for why I'd need to make a tax return and their response was
Following these guidelines from Revenue, I submitted a Form 12 a month ago. I arrived home this evening to find it returned to me in the post with a letter stating that since I exercised Share Options during 2007 I am a chargeable person for Income Tax and must complete a Form 11 tax return.
This is a pain as I hoped that Revenue would calculate my Tax Liability for 2007 by virtue of me submitting the Form 12 before the end of August. If I've to submit a Form 11 now, I've lost that opportunity.
There are a few threads on this subject and a magic number of €3,175 is mentioned by ClubMan -
http://www.askaboutmoney.com/showthread.php?p=417559
http://www.askaboutmoney.com/showthread.php?t=65599
http://www.askaboutmoney.com/showthread.php?t=54944
Does anyone have more detail on this?
At the time of exercising the stock options in Nov 2007, I returned the form within 30 days and paid tax @ 41% on it. My taxable benefit was €3586 so above the €3,175 limit - I'd just like to double check the regulations before I launch into filling out the Form 11 to see if there's any way I can get away with it ;-( Just in case there's been any increase in the limit. Chance would be a fine thing!
I'm just so annoyed as I started back to college tonight and am already up to my oxters in course work. Now to face into a mammoth guide to completing pay & file returns - the Form 12 took ages to sort out and I know I've a lot of the ground work in there but it's sooooo annoying. Rant over ;-)
I emailed Revenue in January 2007 listing the above 3 reasons for why I'd need to make a tax return and their response was
To enable us to finalise your tax affairs for 2007, please complete a Form 12 tax return for that year (available from www.revenue.ie) and forward to ...
Following these guidelines from Revenue, I submitted a Form 12 a month ago. I arrived home this evening to find it returned to me in the post with a letter stating that since I exercised Share Options during 2007 I am a chargeable person for Income Tax and must complete a Form 11 tax return.
This is a pain as I hoped that Revenue would calculate my Tax Liability for 2007 by virtue of me submitting the Form 12 before the end of August. If I've to submit a Form 11 now, I've lost that opportunity.
There are a few threads on this subject and a magic number of €3,175 is mentioned by ClubMan -
http://www.askaboutmoney.com/showthread.php?p=417559
http://www.askaboutmoney.com/showthread.php?t=65599
http://www.askaboutmoney.com/showthread.php?t=54944
...only if the nominal income was more than €3,175 (?) did this happen and otherwise you remained PAYE
I thought that you could use Form 12 if such non PAYE income was under the c. €3,175 limit but otherwise you were treated as self assessed (even if most of your income was still PAYE)?
Does anyone have more detail on this?
At the time of exercising the stock options in Nov 2007, I returned the form within 30 days and paid tax @ 41% on it. My taxable benefit was €3586 so above the €3,175 limit - I'd just like to double check the regulations before I launch into filling out the Form 11 to see if there's any way I can get away with it ;-( Just in case there's been any increase in the limit. Chance would be a fine thing!
I'm just so annoyed as I started back to college tonight and am already up to my oxters in course work. Now to face into a mammoth guide to completing pay & file returns - the Form 12 took ages to sort out and I know I've a lot of the ground work in there but it's sooooo annoying. Rant over ;-)