Site for children's hospital


I don't know what you mean but I mean a child with an injury, a fever etc either referred by a GP or brought directly by the parent.

So if a child needs emergency treatment for something like this in Limerick, the parent will bring the child to the ED in Limerick not Dublin.
 
I'm getting a little confused. For example, I see several new private hospitals opened in populated areas. Their advertsing tells a great story. If you want say a Hip Job theirs is the 'in-place' to get treatment. If anything goes wrong and a relatively minor operation starts to go pear-shape, the patient gets transferred to a public hospital. Private hospital charges still obtain, to the patient of course. But, it is the taxpayer takes up the bill for the major part of the hospital stay.
 

No, it's not. The public hospital simply charges the private patients insurance. The public system does not subsidise private health care. It's the other way around. That's the problem with two tier system.
 
Sunny said:
The public system does not subsidise private health care.
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You are joking, right? The costs charged to private health insurance companies for private beds in public hospitals is nothing near the full economic cost of those beds. The fees paid by consumers for private health insurance are subsidised by tax relief. The development of private health clinics is subsided by further special tax reliefs.

The public system most certainly DOES subsidise private health care.
 
Complainer said:
The public system most certainly DOES subsidise private health care.
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The very same people who are paying for the private are the same who are paying the bulk of the countries PRSI/Health Levy income. It is only right they shoud have at least some of their medical costs paid by their taxes.
 

That might have been true in previous years but the costs of private care in public hospitals has risen dramatically in recent times. It may not yet reflect the 'true economic cost' but there is little doubt that treating private patients is a useful source of income for stretched hospitals hence the inequality in the system. Without private insurance money coming into the system, the cost of the health service would rocket hence my assertion that private insurance money subsidises the Health System because it keeps thousands of people out of the 'free' public health system. If people with private health insurance decided not to take out cover, they would all be accessing the public system where nothing towards the economic cost of care is paid.

It's the problem with a two tier system. It is the worst of both worlds. Labour and FG have a decent policy in regard to this that are worth looking at.
 
Towger said:
The very same people who are paying for the private are the same who are paying the bulk of the countries PRSI/Health Levy income. It is only right they shoud have at least some of their medical costs paid by their taxes.
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It is absolutly NOT right that they get to skip queues based on their income. If they want private healthcare, then by all means let them pay the true price for that healthcare. If they want to stay in the public system, then the state will pay their medical costs, on the same basis as other patients.
 
The solution is for us all to stop paying private health care en-masse. It is nothing other than another tax anyway, and as Complainer was saying it has lead to a two tier system.
 
Please don't talk about the income for public hospitals unless you look at the costs associated with that income. It doesn't generate anything for them, except additional costs.

Please don't keep peddling the myth that these people would all fall back on the public system without these subsidies. While undoubtedly some of them would, it is undoubtedly true that some of them would continue to pay whatever it takes in an unsubsidised private system to keep away from the plebs.
 
Personally I think the location is down to thje fact that it is in our former Taoiseach's constituency and nothing else. To back down now would prove that. I'm with the OP in that I can't see it going ahead on this site once there is a new government; however I can see it going ahead at a more responsible location that is not based on the use of public transport in an emergency.
 
Last time I passed by there was a building in progress about eight stories high towering over the area so I don't see it stopping any time soon. I can't believe people are arguing about its location coz its hard to find - you won't miss the thing by the time it is finished. Pretty straight run from either the Finglas or M1 exit off the M50.....
 
As Complainer says, what you see being built is the Adult Hospital Extension. The children’s hospital is to be squeezed into the remaining space and go up twice as high. In the mean time there is 26 hectares of space down the road at Grangegorman, (enought for a university and hospital) and more elsewhere.
 
Like I said , watch that space!!
My bet is it will remain empty,there wont be enough money for it to go ahead..
 
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