SF rating higher than FF in poll

BUT increasingly there is the more urbane, articulate shinner, equally as hardworking - and maybe more importanlty, without "previous".

Caomhín O'Caoláin would be an example.
 
I think a lot of the reason for the rise in SF popularity is the lack of leadership on the part of FG and LAB on the issue of default on the bank debt. There is no doubt that the Irish nation cannot pay back this private debt. If someone soon doesn't decouple the national and the private bank debt we are going to be stripped of what remaining assets we have and we will be sunk.
 
People shouldn't forget that according to , Gerry Adams was the person responsible for ordering the murder of Jean McConville, mother of 10 children.

Is it a concidence that he plans to run for election in Louth where she was callously murdered and buried? Maybe he's just decided to dance on her grave.
 

If there had been any real evidence of Adams involvement in this he would have been locked up for a very long time, do you not agree? He is hardly a popular figure among the political establishment in this Country after all.

I don't have much in the way of opinions on the man either way. But I do think if they could have made the above stick in any way, they would have.
 
delgirl said:
Is it a concidence that he plans to run for election in Louth where she was callously murdered and buried?
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Very strong republican tradition in north Louth. He wants to be as sure as he can be, that he will get a seat.
 
A lot of apethetic voters who normally wouldn't bother their asses will definitely get out and make sure they vote in the next election and you can bet a lot of these (especially in the working class areas) will be voting sinn fein. It serves the current shower of TD's right. Their nothing but corrupt sleeveens who are completely out of touch.
They have looked after the interests of themselves and their cronies for too long and they have gone too far this time.
Make the most of your last few weeks in power lads!
 

Delgirl I agree completely with you - Remember Robert Mc Carthy I note in the WIKI that the family have had to relocate due to intimidation...
 
Imagine the Daily Mail's response. We give those f****** billions of euro and they go and elect Sinn Fein!
 
I find that most people who come out with this 'curse on all your houses' stuff are those who voted FF last time, and are trying to ease their guilt.
 
Complainer said:
I find that most people who come out with this 'curse on all your houses' stuff are those who voted FF last time, and are trying to ease their guilt.
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Why would anyone feel guilt over who they vote for? I don't get that argument.
 


Yes, but what about the rest of us? Do you really want to see a party whose name has been synonymous with terrorism and murder having seats in the Dail. I certainly don't, no matter how low my opinion of FF.
 
Complainer said:
I find that most people who come out with this 'curse on all your houses' stuff are those who voted FF last time, and are trying to ease their guilt.
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I didn't vote for them and I agree with grahamo. I fear the alternative as much as the current shower. It's a choice of mutton heads or mutton heads eila.
 
liaconn said:
Yes, but what about the rest of us? Do you really want to see a party whose name has been synonymous with terrorism and murder having seats in the Dail. I certainly don't, no matter how low my opinion of FF.
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fianna fail and fianna gael aren't exactly whiter than white. FF were "allegedly" involved in dodgy dealings involving arms in 1969-1971. Fine Gael evolved in the early 1930's from the fascist National guard. Just like Sinn Fein their politics centre around events that took place in the early 20th century.
I think its time politics in ireland were dragged into the 21st century with new left, right and centre political parties.
 

Yes but SF have strong ties to murderers and other criminals and existing elected members have been in prison for serious crimes.
 
Purple said:
Yes but SF have strong ties to murderers and other criminals and existing elected members have been in prison for serious crimes.
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And their sitting TD's think nothing about going to meet the killers of Detective Jerry McCabe upon their release. Scum.
 
Purple said:
Yes but SF have strong ties to murderers and other criminals and existing elected members have been in prison for serious crimes.
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An FF have strong ties to OTHER serious criminals and existing elected members that have NOT ben in prison for serious crimes

I'm probably sounding a bit like a SF supporter, which I am not.........or not yet anyway..................
 
lightswitch said:
An FF have strong ties to OTHER serious criminals and existing elected members that have NOT ben in prison for serious crimes

I'm probably sounding a bit like a SF supporter, which I am not.........or not yet anyway..................
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FF TD's haven't murdered anyone. Bank robbing and extortion... well, there's a few parallels there I'll admit.
 
I can understand why people (particularly those on low/no incomes) would be drawn to SF in times like this - they have no confidence whatsover in the other parties. However, the phrase, "Be careful what you ask for" springs to mind. I would seriously consider emigrating if SF were elected.
 
Purple said:
FF TD's haven't murdered anyone. Bank robbing and extortion... well, there's a few parallels there I'll admit.
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That's why I left out the reference to murder............mind you I did think about it..........there is more than one way to skin a cat.
 
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