Selling 2 Apartments to buy a house (negative equity)

DaveSt

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Hi Folks,

Looking for some advice, myself and my other half are looking at the possibility of my moving house because we are expecting our first child.

At the moment this is the situation

Me: Income 45k, permanent semi state employment, owns a 2 bed apartment valued at 85-90k outstanding mortgage 122k (rentable for 700pm)

Other half: Income 29k permanent private sector employment, owns a 2 bed apartment valued at 200k, outstanding mortgage of 200k.

Neither are rented out at the moment, although my brother is moving into the cheaper one shortly.

At the moment we have about 4k in savings, saving 800 euro a month, also my father has offered us a gift of 25k if we need it to buy a family home.


Should we try sell both, take a hit on the first apartment and take the negative equity into the new mortgage? which would be roughly 35k . Thus new house 210k+35k=245k. Presuming the we took the 25k off my dad this would leave us with a mortgage of 225k and no apartments to worry about.


Or would it be possible to hold on to my place, get the other half to sell her apartment and buy a smaller house in her name only(if needs be) for around 200k? then look at the possibility of selling the new house and the remaining apartment a few years down the line? That way we wouldn't be taking a hit on my apartment, or using my Dads 25k. Also the repayments would be lower.

Which scenario are the banks likely to go for? Given my other halves low income, are they likely to let us do either? surely a 3 bed semi with 2 peoples names on the mortgage is a better bet for the bank than our current situation
 
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Why don't you live in the 2 bed apartment? Many families of more than three are living in two bed apartments.

This seems the best thing to do, especially if it's a cheap tracker. With your level of savings and normal monthly repayments, you will clear the negative equity very quickly and you will then be free to sell it without the bureaucracy of getting the bank's permission.

If the smaller apartment is a tracker, it may be worth keeping. But in generaly, you are better off selling it to reduce your overall borrowing. The existence of a mortgage will restrict your borrowing capacity.

If your apartment is with UB or BoI, they may allow you to transfer your tracker at a higher rate for 5 years,before putting you onto a SVR.

Brendan
 
No trackers on either. The moving is almost as much to do with moving location, as it is to get a bigger place with a garden etc...
 
I imagine on your wife's salary alone of 29k the largest mortgage you would get would be 120-30k tops. This may be a factor.
 
I make that €57200 in net income.

What are the terms on the loans and are you paying interest and capital on both?

A yield of nearly 10% is hard to come by.
 
I imagine on your wife's salary alone of 29k the largest mortgage you would get would be 120-30k tops. This may be a factor.

That may be the case, although she successfully obtained a mortgage of 212k to buy her current apartment, with the same income she has now.

I'll be the first to admit that in my opinion it was reckless lending on the part of the the bank to lend her over 7 times her income, but she has never missed a payment and if she was to sell up and buy a house for the same money that she got for her apartment, the repayments would be the same.
 
I make that €57200 in net income.

What are the terms on the loans and are you paying interest and capital on both?

A yield of nearly 10% is hard to come by.

paying interest and capital back on both, has 26 years left, and hers i think has 31 years left.

Combined repayments at the moment are about 1600 a month, If i rented the cheaper apartment the rent would cover the mortgage and management fees on it, but id have to pay income tax on the rental income, if doing everything above board
 
I think the bank would be happier with one property and a loan of €220k.

From your view point the question is is it better to keep the lower value property - 700 per month with annual interest of €6k mgt charge 1k and tax of 1.5k so 8k in 8.5k out

or take a 30k loan at 5% €1,500 pa.

If it were me I'd get rid of both and focus on paying 1,600 off your family home.
 
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