SCSB = 3rd secret of Fatima

Sophrosyne said:
I didn't think taxable social welfare could be included as it is not an emolument of the office or employment to which the lump sum refers.
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Well I got it in writing from Revenue that it is included. Particularly relates to maternity benefit and illness benefit.
 
Joe,

Could you clarify exactly what Revenue advised?

Was it that all taxable social welfare benefits could be included as remuneration for the last 3 years of service in computing the SCSB?
 
Sophrosyne said:
Joe,

Could you clarify exactly what Revenue advised?

Was it that all taxable social welfare benefits could be included as remuneration for the last 3 years of service in computing the SCSB?
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No...it's social welfare that's linked to the employment. e.g. Maternity benefit, sick pay, etc.
 
From Revenue

In relation to average pay over the previous 36 months for a SCSB calculation, SCSB is determined on the average for one year of the holder’s emoluments of the office or employment for the last three years of service before the relevant date. Section 993 of the TCA, 1997, defines "emoluments" as anything assessable to Income Tax under Schedule E, and references to payments of emoluments include references to payments on account of emoluments.

I guess it is covered under the payments on account of employment. They specifically confirmed MB and IB in the note.
 
JoeRoberts said:
For the PV, the lump sum will be based on years of service rule rather than the 25%.
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Hi Joe,

Old thread here...but I'm searching for answers on something similar and came across this. Maybe you can help as I'm trying to understand one particular point.

When deducting the PV of the tax-free lump sum in the SCSB formula, would you think that the "years of service" rule must be applied?

From the Revenue TDM guidance manual "Pension Manual – Appendix V" (I can't insert a link here but it comes up in Google), I think that the taxpayer has the option to choose the 25% method for the purpose of the SCSB formula (mentioned by Revenue in both examples 2A and 2B):

I don't know does the pension provider/actuary take this approach...I've no practical experience with the question but wonder if you've any idea?
 
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