One thing I can't understand is why no one who drove the peace process forward has never won the Nobel Prize for peace.
If it happened in Iraq, people would be shouting about war crimes.
Er...might want to check that out again mpsox
Fair comment but personnally I don't believe the right people got it, nothing would have happened without the driving force of Reynolds and Major.
Saville has tried to answer that question in his conclusions. A relevant extract from one of the links above reads "5.5 ... Bloody Sunday strengthened the Provisional IRA, increased nationalist resentment and hostility towards the Army and exacerbated the violent conflict of the years that followed. Bloody Sunday was a tragedy for the bereaved and the wounded, and a catastrophe for the people of Northern Ireland."... Did the troubles cause Bloody Sunday or did Bloody Sunday cause the troubles? the reality is that no-one can truthfully answer that. ...
One of them was on an Irish-registered Gaza-bound ship recently, had accusations of being a Hamas-supporter hurled at her and was detained illegally by Israeli pirate terrorists.... One thing I can't understand is why no one who drove the peace process forward has never won the Nobel Prize for peace. ...
I doubt it - there probably wasn’t enough gombeen-man money in it.Or Bertie Ahearn ...
… needed an Ace to help him recover from the WMD debacle and being Bush’s go-for boy. He launched the inquiry though, probably with instructions to Saville to hang a few minor army types out to dry.... and Tony Blair
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I doubt it - there probably wasn’t enough gombeen-man money in it.
… needed an Ace to help him recover from the WMD debacle and being Bush’s go-for boy. He launched the inquiry though, probably with instructions to Saville to hang a few minor army types out to dry.
Murdering 1st Para scum , whose actions precipitated the whole tragedy that was " The Troubles "
You evidently have information that wasn't available to the Saville inquiry because the inquiry's conclusions are radically different to what you suggest above. Or are you from the Ken Maginnis school of logic that says the IRA started it so it's all their fault?The troubles were well under way by this time - the IRA was very active before this. ...
You evidently have information that wasn't available to the Saville inquiry because the inquiry's conclusions are radically different to what you suggest above. Or are you from the Ken Maginnis school of logic that says the IRA started it so it's all their fault?
I agree about the inaccuracies, some of which are reflected in your post IMHO.
Your questions are off-topic IMHO, one isn't a question at all and one is none of your business but the answer can be deduced fairly accurately from a previous post.Answer these questions?...
Your questions are off-topic IMHO, one isn't a question at all and one is none of your business but the answer can be deduced fairly accurately from a previous post.
The thread topic is the Saville Report about Bloody Sunday. Your post follows the Ken Maginnis school of logic, claiming everything that ever happened before Bloody Sunday was the cause of or a factor contributing to the slaughter of innocent people on the streets of Derry that day by British soldiers.
The Saville report's published conclusions are at variance with what you, Maginnis and Jackson choose to believe.
The troubles were well under way by this time - the IRA was very active before this.
Too much of what happened in NI is due to inaccuracies contained in statements like this, for both the Unionist and Nationalist agendas. It will always be a very emotive topic and will always be prone to people opening old wounds with stuff like this.
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