Thanks givecredit, Dr. Moriarty and hansov, for your help. I presume the "special dish" that would be required would just be one with a larger diameter to grasp the extra degrees required? Would this work out cheaper than getting a motorised dish. I don't think I'd be up to the installation myself, being a novice d.i.y.er at best. Thanks for that website link digitalspy.co.uk, I have been checking it out and also boards.ie also, both very informative. On Friday last I hadn't a clue about satellites, now I am beginning to make more sense of them.