Santas warned 'ho ho ho' offensive to women

..Apparently Birmingham City Council proposed the idea of Winterval in 1998, but backed down in the face of protests from the local Christian churches-Not a myth..

daithi
 
..Apparently Birmingham City Council proposed the idea of Winterval in 1998, but backed down in the face of protests from the local Christian churches-Not a myth..

daithi

The myth isn't that it happened, the myth is that they replaced Christmas with Winterval to avoid offending non-Christians. Christmas was still very much celebrated by the Council. The Lord Mayor even sent everyone a Christmas card! Winterval ran from October to January and encompassed many events, such as Halloween, Diwali and New Year's Eve.
 

This contemporary report from the normally-reliable BBC News tells a different story


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/210672.stm
 
I don't see that it tells a different story. Christmas was still celebrated by the council, alongside other events as part of the festival. The claim was that Christmas was replaced to avoid offending people.
 
To repeat, the BBC said, on November 9, 1998:
The change is being made because city council officials hope to create a more multi-cultural atmosphere in keeping with the city's mix of ethnic groups.

There is no record on BBC News or elsewhere of their news report being rebutted or contradicted by the Council (as "bollocks" or otherwise) in its immediate aftermath.
 
From the same BBC report:


I don't see how that qualifies as Christmas being replaced. Are we arguing different things here?
 
Perhaps. However imho the attempt by the Council to dismiss the story on the pretence that it was invented by "rogue journalists" speaks for itself.
 
If that story is that Winterval happened as I think it did, and they're trying to deny it then I agree with you.
 
PC madness...anyway I'm off to polish my shoes, go for an Indian or maybe a Chinese and polish (there I go again) it all of with a scotch (or a paddy). Lord help me if I want to order a full Irish tomorrow morning.
 
after 911 , the Indians will have to change the name of Bombay too !
 


I further propose that because of the risk of offending Polish people, "poles" (as in ESB poles etc) should be renamed.
I think we should instead refer to them as "erections" - who could possibly be offended by that?

And I for one think that you should stand firm on that Caveat!!!!!!
 
eh.....they did, didn't they? It's been Mumbai for some years now!

I bow to your superior knowledge


But, similarly to Santas' traditional greeting in the original story. we can still refer to Bombay until someone in authority with nothing better to do says we cant, reasoning because it could be misconstrued by a minority of idiots as some sort of incitement.
 
There is a pub in Ballyhale, Kilkenny called Pakie's Pub. What do you do when your name is politically incorrect?
 
There is a pub in Ballyhale, Kilkenny called Pakie's Pub. What do you do when your name is politically incorrect?

And indeed if you decide to drop into Pakie's Pub some day make sure you don't ask for a "ham sambo".
 
..didn't some English town come up with the bright idea of replacing Christmas with a festival called "Winterval" so as not to offend non-Christian residents of the town? Political correctness gone competely mad...

This is not a case of political correctness. It's a case of being pragmatic and secular, which many people would think is a good thing.

What's so mad about giving a festival a more accurate description/name? The vast majority of people in so-called Christian countries do not practice religion, but celebrate the holiday anyway because we all enjoy a good festival.

And anyway, Christmas, in terms of its December timing, was imposed by the church in order to overpower pagan festivals which were celebrated at that time (they were less successful with Halloween, which never gave way to All Souls Day as hoped by the church boffins).