Running the Dublin Marathon this year- advice please

rory22

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Hi all,

just looking for advice and good links to websites where I could find training tips for doing the marathon. Always wanted to do it so have decided to go for it this year but would like some advice on training e.g. should I build up to be able to run 26 miles without any problem or maybe get up to 15-20 miles of a run and let adrenalin carry me across the line on race day.

All advice welcome.
Thanks.
 
I did the dublin marathon last year (first time) and found www.runnersworld.co.uk helpful. I didn't run 26 miles until the day itself I got up as far as 20 miles, my research told me not to do the full 26 beforehand. The adidas race series in the phoenix park is good to do as it gets you used to race format. There are 3 runs 5, 10 and 1/2 marathon first one is on 18th July.

Best of luck with it
 
Ive run nearly 100 marathons by now, and using as simple a strategy as possibe is my recommendation.

If you log onto www.nycmarathon.org they have specific schedules online depending on your expected finishing time. Look at these and download an appropiate one.
Below you will find a general training strategy copied from that site.


Good luck!


This training schedule was created for New York Road Runners by Bob and Shelly Glover and is designed to help you meet your goals in the ING New York City Marathon. Bob Glover, a best-selling author and the founder and director of [broken link removed], is a veteran of more than 35 marathons. Shelly Glover is an exercise physiologist and also a veteran marathoner. Thousands of runners have followed their advice to successful marathons.
Six sample are presented. Select the one that best fits your needs, but remember, these are sample schedules. Make personal adaptations following common sense. Keep track of how you're doing by writing your daily runs into a training diary (such as the Runner's Training Diary). The diary can serve as a coach, helping you to stay on schedule.
The road to the glorious finish line starts with making the commitment to prepare properly. Enjoy your training, and good luck!
Training Strategies

Mileage: The schedules contain detailed mileage recommendations. They begin with a base that should be maintained for at least one to two months prior to following the sample build-up programs. The base should be about 50 to 75 percent of your peak mileage goal and include long runs at least twice a month that are at least one-third to one-half your goal long run distance for the training program. Reaching a solid base prior to May or June -- or even going a bit beyond these recommendations -- will make you that much stronger and better prepared for the rigorous build-up training period. But 18 weeks of serious training is a long time, so be careful not to burn out before marathon day.
During the training program, first-time and casual marathoners should gradually build to a peak of 30 to 40 miles per week, hold it for at least six to eight weeks, then taper down over the last two to three weeks prior to race day. Veteran competitive marathoners should gradually build to 40 to 70+ miles per week (depending on their experience and goals), which they hold for at least six to eight weeks, then taper down over the last two to three weeks prior to race day. Cut back on mileage when ill, injured, overtrained, or when going into or out of key races. Do not attempt to make up lost mileage.
Long Runs: The most important ingredient to marathon success is the long run; it mirrors the marathon itself. "Going long" is a hallowed weekend tradition that is despised and loved, feared and revered, bragged and complained about. First-time and casual marathoners should gradually increase the length of long runs and complete at least three runs of 18 to 20 miles prior to the marathon.
Do not attempt to run long every weekend. Plan your long runs well in advance so you can get them in every other weekend. Veteran marathoners should run long every other weekend or two of every three over the last three months prior to the race. They should attempt to get in at least five or six runs of 20 to 23 miles. No marathon runner should attempt a long run that will take longer than four hours; the result would be severe fatigue and vulnerability to injury. The last long run should be two to three weeks prior to the marathon. Do not attempt to combine long runs and races on the same weekend.
Speedwork: First-timers benefit from some speedwork because it helps them improve running form and mental discipline. Ease into these workouts and complete only one a week unless you are monitored by a qualified coach. Sample workouts include: 4-6 repeats up a 200-400 yard hill at 5K-10K race pace; 6 repeats of a half-mile at 5K-10K race pace with a 3-minute recovery; 3-4 repeats of one mile at 5K-10K race pace with a 4-minute recovery.
Experienced marathoners need to improve their speed in order to be able to zip through a marathon at a pace that is faster than their normal daily training pace. They should start with one speed workout per week and, perhaps, later build to two. Sample workouts include: 6-10 repeats up a 200-400 yard hill at 5K-10K race pace or faster; 6-8 repeats of a half-mile at 5K race pace or faster with a 3-minute recovery; 4-5 repeats of one mile at 5K-10K race pace with a 4-minute recovery; a 20-30 minute tempo run at 10-mile to half-marathon race pace. For further information on speed training, consult The Competitive Runner's Handbook or attend [broken link removed] that emphasize marathon training.
Races: Many first-time and casual marathoners race only the marathon distance. However, build-up events are recommended to learn how to handle pacing, fluid replacement, shoe and clothing choices, etc. Veteran marathoners benefit from build-up races to gain strength, speed, and racing experience. Races also help break up the monotony of training by providing intermediate goals, and are a great place to meet other marathoners, share experiences, and even find a training partner.
Races can be used to:
- Get in long training runs with split times and plenty of fluids, fuel, and company along the way. You can create a beneficial long run by running a few training miles prior to a race and then running the race at training pace. Do not attempt to combine long runs and races on the same weekend unless you run the race at training pace as part of your long run.
- Work on your pace. Running a few races from 5-18 miles at marathon pace will help you become familiar with that effort. A controlled run at marathon pace or slightly faster will help prepare you for your race-day pace.
- Measure progress and better select your marathon time goal. Hard race efforts (5Ks to half-marathons) can be used to compare your times to previous races of the same distance or to the same races from last year. A rough rule of thumb: Multiply your half-marathon time by two and add 10-15 minutes to approximate your marathon fitness. (Adjust times for hot weather and tough courses.)
Ideally, you should race at least once a month, but no more than twice a month. If you race more you can't properly recover. Do not race or do hard speed training for approximately two weeks after races of 10 miles and longer, or for approximately a week after shorter races. Your last hard, long race should be no later than three weeks prior to the marathon, and your last hard, short race no later than two weeks prior to the marathon.
Crosstraining/Running Equivalents: You can minimize the wear and tear on your body by replacing up to 25 percent of your mileage with biking, swimming, deep water running, elliptical training, or other aerobic non-weight bearing exercises. Do these activities at a pace that will get your heart rate in your training range and count how many miles you would have run during the time spent doing the alternative training as "running equivalent mileage."
Injury: Do not attempt to train if you are favoring an injury. Seek advice from a sports medicine expert who is familiar with runners. Replace running with crosstraining if possible while you recover. If an injury is threatening your health as you approach the ING New York City Marathon, note that you can cancel your spot and be guaranteed entry for next year's race.
The Aftermarathon: You will need about a month to recover and rebuild after your marathon. For the first few days it may be best not to run while muscles repair. If you feel the need to exercise, stick to 30-60 minutes of walking or non-impact aerobic exercise; swimming is particularly therapeutic.
After about three or four days of not running, you may be ready to run easy (on a soft surface if possible) the rest of the week for 2-4 miles per day, or every other day, possibly alternating running and walking. Increase mileage the second week to no more than 25-50 percent of normal and to no more than 50-75 percent during the third and, perhaps, fourth post-marathon week. By the fourth or fifth week you may be ready to resume normal mileage.
Forget about how fast you run for awhile; run easy according to how you feel. The first goal is to gradually get back to running comfortably at your normal training pace without undue soreness or stiffness. Ease back into speed training gradually after about two to three weeks, and don't race any distance until at least three to four weeks after the marathon. Ideally, don't consider another marathon for at least six months.
Training Program ©Robert H. Glover and Associates, Inc. 2009. The ING New York City Marathon Official Training Program is adapted from The Runner's Handbook and The Competitive Runner's Handbook.
 
i was going to add a reply but runner has it all covered, the marathon is hard both mentally and physically don't under estimate the effort and dedication you need to finish in one piece. the best of luck and enjoy the training and event
 
Thanks folks, some great advice there. I've only ever been involved with team sports before and have been inactive for a few years so I’m looking forward to the challenge. Does anybody know of a good sports shop in Dublin? I've been trying to get the appropriate running gear but find most sports shops don’t sell stuff like underwear suitable for running long distance, I've had a couple of problems with chaffing and blisters (the blisters being on my feet I should add!)

Thanks again for the tips!
 
I've used Amphibian King in Bray before to get a gait analysis done and found them very good (I have no connection). They have quite a large range of clothing and accessories as well as runners.
 
+1 for Amphibian King. Runways on Parnell St also go gait analysis as do some Elverys stores.
 
Thanks again for all the tips and links, got fitted out in amphibian king. One problem I have though is one of my knees is starting to really hurt, don't know if I've been pushing it too hard (doing 20-30 miles a week so far) I'm not really asking for medical advise (as I know it's against AAM policy) but does anybody know where I could get tips on how to protect your knees, what the best warm-up, warm-down stretches etc. It's just my right knee and I’ve never had a problem before so I'm a little worried it might stop me doing the marathon if it gets worse.
Thanks again.
 
Try to run as much as possible on grass or softer terrain, makes a huge difference to concrete paths!