[font=Verdana, Arial]The entire Cabinet gets €2.76m
How much would you suggest would be a fair rate for the cabinet (bearing in mind the kind of rates that smart people can earn in law, or finance or similar? And let's not kid ourselves - love em or hate em - most of the cabinet are smart people (Minister for Transport excluded of course).umop3p!sdn said:From that site:
This is a disgrace. What a waste of public money.
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How much would you suggest would be a fair rate for the cabinet
True - but the corollory generally is true. There are few people earning high wages who are not actually smart. If you want to attract smart people, you're going to have to pay an attractive salary. I'm not suggesting that 'smart' is the only criteria for selecting the cabinet, but it should certainly be a minimum entry criteria.umop3p!sdn said:There are also many smart people doing all kinds of work which is low paying. Teachers, nurses, people starting companies etc, etc... Being smart doesn't always correlate to high wages.
Interesting point of view. Joe Higgins of the Socialist Party and the Sinn Fein TD's operate this system, whereby they take the national industrial wage for themselves and pay over the rest to party funds. I presume then you are keen to attract more extreme left and parties with links to private armies to the Dail? I guess the old adage of 'be careful what you wish for' applies.umop3p!sdn said:A person who works as a TD should probably be on the national average industrial wage. This would ensure a fair and reasonably balanced approach when governing the country. We all know about the corrupting influence of money.
If TDs were on this wage, they would enter into politics because of a passion, instead of a thirst for monetary gain.
Another reason I believe wages should be set a this level is because these people are being paid out of our taxes! - They are not directly generating wealth, but are living off the fat of the land.
I actually agree with this, pay peanuts get monkeys (ie the opposition).If you want the best you need to pay the best. You can be sure that Bertie as head of govt. is geting far less than the CEO of AIB etc. this is a crazy situation. I remember when Ray McSharry left Irish politics as he could earn far more in Europe and then in the private sector than he ever could in the dail. We need to attract these people and keep them.michaelm said:.
As for the politicians, I think there are too many of them, I reckon there should be half as many but they should be paid 2 or 3 times as much,.
Do you know the workload of many politicians? I do and the time that they put in is unbelivable high, it is a 7 day a week job, late hours, meetings after meetings clinics etc. I wouldn't do it myself for any money. Even though I am involved in "THE PARTY" and have canvesed quite a lot.michaelm said:.but a lot more should be expected from them..
If this is the case why did you elect them, yes you, everyone has the same vote and power to decide who should be in the dail and in govt. Don't cod yourself I would say that 99.99% of the td's want to do what is right. Everything doesn't go smoodly, there is the permanent govt. to get around in many cases as one thing the civil servents don't want is change particularly those in Govt. departments. Belive it or not much of the goings on in the tv program Yes Minister while made funny etc was/is quite true. Likewise A Very British coup was in its own way accurate.michaelm said:. Many current politicians are barely competent. It seems to me that many politicians put themselves first, their friends second, their party third with the country a distant fourth. I like to see more politicians with a genuine interest in improving things and putting the interests of the country first rather than just trying to cling to power at all costs.
Indeed. Well I didn't vote for a FF/PD government but I'm sure I got the government I deserved. I must admit the did well getting a comfortable majority of seats on less than 50% of the votes from a turnout of 60 odd percent. I believe that they were elected not on the strength of their manifesto or their track record but rather on the weakness of the opposition facilitated by the apathy of many people who didn't bother to register their vote.jem said:If this is the case why did you elect them, yes you, everyone has the same vote and power to decide who should be in the dail and in govt.
RainyDay said:But the idea of paying cabinet ministers the average industrial wage is ludicrous.
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