Why the uproar about this?
I agree wit Sunny's points.
I'll be very disappointed if they don't backdate this though.
There will be murder if they backdate this to look at prior years!
Pensioners as a group have, over the last few years, shown themselves to be the most selfish and self-serving group in Irish society.
I have been given to here before for describing the pensioners who protested outside the Dail when the medical card was removed from over 70’s earning more than €1’350 a week as “scum” but my opinion hasn’t changed.
If the government said that Taxi drivers had been under paying their income tax for years but they weren’t going to back date it because they didn’t do it on purpose there would be uproar. Why doesn’t the same apply for pensioners on good incomes? If they are part of the nebulous but ever growing group called “The Most Vulnerable in Society” (could we just use “MVS” in future?) then they won’t be liable for anything because they won’t be earning enough.
The “Theirs is the generation that built the country” line also fails when held up to scrutiny. The generation now retired is the generation who covered up sexual abuse, allowed the economy to overheat, saw us drop down almost every league table that mattered from literacy to numeracy to productivity and up the ones that we didn’t want to be on like obesity and indebtedness. They made their good decisions and their bad decisions. In short they are no better or worse than my generation or the one coming after me. We don’t have a generation that fought the Second World War, we don’t have that Golden generation, so stop the misty-eyed drivel. Anyway, being a decent skin, a morally upstanding member of society and an all-round good person doesn’t allow you to evade tax.
Purple
I agree with the main points in your post; pensioners should not be treated and different regarding tax arrears.
However I think you are far too liberal with generalizations regarding their " generation" and what they allegedly have done.
My parents are of this generation and I immediately thought that they would be horrified to read your post.
My problem is your use of the term "generation" as if they acted in unison.
All the bad things that happened- child abuse and the cover ups, corruption etc. were effected by individuals making conscious decisions and cannot be attributed to a general group.
I'm just pointing out that pensioners aren't some group to which we all own a debt of some sort. This is especially the case if you work in the Public Sector where the debt is owed by the pensioners to those who are being bled to pay for their pensions.
I'm just pointing out that pensioners aren't some group to which we all own a debt of some sort. This is especially the case if you work in the Public Sector where the debt is owed by the pensioners to those who are being bled to pay for their pensions.
DeiseBlue, that assumes they worked in PS all their lives and only paid PRSI class D.
If so, then yes, they won't get a PRSI pension.
Thanks for that.
I presume it's fair to say that typically pre 1995 Public Sector employees will not receive any State OAP but will simply receive an occupational pension ?
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