on that I agree.if you don't bother you have no right to complain about the outcome.
Well we are keeping our House of Lords.
Maybe some day we'll be a republic and all citizens will be treated equally. Until then we'll have an Upper House (as the House of Lords is called in the UK) that 1% of the people elect and appoint.
The house of Lords are usually born into a seat there.
The majority of people who are in the Seanad are democratically elected.
The elections are taken from select groups of people.
The only ones who are anyway failures are the ones who are put there by political parties........usually cos the electorate didn't do the party a favour and vote them in.
The majority of the Seanad are educated and smart people.
I don't claim to know all the workings of the House but I do know if those educated smart people are there working then I'd like it kept.
Have a look through it's member list.
Something to bear in mind here....just cos you can't see anything that is going on does not mean that there is nothing going on.
just cos you can't see anything that is going on does not mean that there is nothing going on.
They will probably extend the franchise to other 3rd level graduates in the other universities and ITs.
None of them are, not since the 1999 House of Lords Act which specifically states they can’t. It reads "No-one shall be a member of the House of Lords by virtue of a hereditary peerage.". That’s as clear as it gets.The house of Lords are usually born into a seat there.
None of them are. If all of the people are not entitled to vote them it’s not democratic. Otherwise a minority who impose their will on the majority but take a vote amongst themselves can claim a democratic mandate. If the majority of the people in a country choose to retain a king, or a theocratic ruler, it is still not a democracy.The majority of people who are in the Seanad are democratically elected.
What is wrong with the rest of the uneducated great unwashed having an ould vote in this or are we just too stupid?
The house of Lords are usually born into a seat there. Incorrect
The majority of people who are in the Seanad are democratically elected. - Yes, but only by a select few
The elections are taken from select groups of people - correct, but why should I get a vote and others don't, that isn't democratic in the way I understand it
The only ones who are anyway failures are the ones who are put there by political parties........usually cos the electorate didn't do the party a favour and vote them in - go have a count of how many Senators are members of a party, oh, too late, maybe you should have done that before voting
The majority of the Seanad are educated and smart people - so are a lot of our dole offices
I don't claim to know all the workings of the House but I do know if those educated smart people are there working then I'd like it kept. - why not extend this to everything and give everyone a job at the Stat'es expense, perhaps you should have read how little impact the Seanad has on legislation before voting
Have a look through it's member list.- I have, Mostly failed politicians with a few excellent contributors
Something to bear in mind here....just cos you can't see anything that is going on does not mean that there is nothing going on.
There were several ballots marked NO but had REFORM also on them. These were also deemed spoiled.
The majority of people who are in the Seanad are democratically elected.
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