A charity donation or a refund to card? I'd be in favour of both especially the latter. There's no need for this process to have more than one step in my view.
A charity donation or a refund to card? I'd be in favour of both especially the latter. There's no need for this process to have more than one step in my view.There was supposed to be an option for that on the machines, at least that was part of some of the publicity about the scheme, but I haven't seen it on any of the machines I've come across.
Sorry, should have been clearer - charity donation. Perhaps it was dropped in the "consultation", I see many mentions of it in the media re: the initial announcement of the scheme.A charity donation or a refund to card? I'd be in favour of both especially the latter. There's no need for this process to have more than one step in my view.
They know that many of the vouchers will never be reclaimed. This is built in as part of the stores' margin.I'm surprised charities haven't partnered with the scheme to give people the option of having the 15c donated. Also a return to card option is a lot more preferable than this thermal paper receipt.
Again, why won't the scheme here address that when it has in so many other countries?The issues with non recycling of bottles/can is an issue outside the home, in transit/commuting etc. The new scheme won't solve that issue
Not everyone has a green bin, let alone use them correctly. If there was high levels of recycling, there's no way this scheme would ever have been considered. Even many of those who feel we're not doing enough to encourage recycling aren't keen on the inconvenience. There's no easy win for a government here.if everyone goes to the bother of putting out a green bin, they are surely putting something into it.
Does that not go to fund Re-Turn itself? The retailers remit the deposits to Re-Turn who reimburse participating retailers the deposit along with a handling fee per item.They know that many of the vouchers will never be reclaimed. This is built in as part of the stores' margin.
I'd agree in it's current form many vouchers will not be reclaimed. Why should any store be making a margin on this scheme?They know that many of the vouchers will never be reclaimed. This is built in as part of the stores' margin.
They didn't buy and won't be powering and maintaining all those expensive machines for the good of their health.I'd agree in it's current form many vouchers will not be reclaimed. Why should any store be making a margin on this scheme?
In those other countries, how many of the places such as small convenience stores where people are likely to be buying them on the go offer takeback?Again, why won't the scheme here address that when it has in so many other countries?
Not everyone has a green bin, let alone use them correctly. If there was high levels of recycling, there's no way this scheme would ever have been considered. Even many of those who feel we're not doing enough to encourage recycling aren't keen on the inconvenience. There's no easy win for a government here.
Most are similar to here really using reverse vending machines. Look up Germany on Google Maps for example and look for Pfand collection points. It's not like we looked at all the places hitting 98% recycling raters and decided to do something different!In those other countries, how many of the places such as small convenience stores where people are likely to be buying them on the go offer takeback?
We do not have the same scheme in practice as in other countries.
That's a bit unspecific. They are only using RVMs? How many of those collection points are manual?Most are similar to here really using reverse vending machines. Look up Germany on Google Maps for example and look for Pfand collection points. It's not like we looked at all the places hitting 98% recycling raters and decided to do something different!
It's similar to here from what I've seen, with queues for the bigger vending machines at times (some of these shred PET on site).That's a bit unspecific. They are only using RVMs? How many of those collection points are manual?
It seems like the spec for the machines here specifically calls out no shredding, compacts instead.It's similar to here from what I've seen, with queues for the bigger vending machines at times (some of these shred PET on site).
The shredders tend to be big machines, limiting the options likely makes introduction here easier.It seems like the spec for the machines here specifically calls out no shredding, compacts instead.
Shops get a handling fee of about 1.2c per container. Adds up fairly quickly once volume comes.They didn't buy and won't be powering and maintaining all those expensive machines for the good of their health.
I read somewhere that the machines cost circa €10k each.Shops get a handling fee of about 1.2c per container. Adds up fairly quickly once volume comes.
Its a near replica of the Danish system.
I'm with Panda and we were told that we can put all packaging material in our green bin both recyclable and non recyclableI'm sure that lots of Re-turn material will (mistakenly or on purpose) end up in green bins. Will waste companies be able to claim the ful amount back on them?
2.2c for vending machines or 2.6c for manual collection.Shops get a handling fee of about 1.2c per container.
Yep, keep them in the wallet/purse for long enough and the print disappears.They know that many of the vouchers will never be reclaimed. This is built in as part of the stores' margin.
As far as I know there is no deposit on 5 litre containers- so there is no manual handling there.The irony of using non-recyclable thermal paper for the the recycling receipts!! Oney in Urlan Joe, oney in Urlan!!
Shame they didn't close the loop with the retailers by using the stores' loyalty cards or the more up-to-date phone apps. As many consumers now use their phones to pay at the till, why not send the credits back to their bank accounts?
The machines I've seen won't take back the rectangular 5 ltr containers, which must be processed manually. Half-assed as usual in this country, yet another semi-solution.
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