RC church on politics?



Well said.
 
Considering the amount of (what turned out to be) bad advice that has eminated from them over the centuries, might it not be about time that they kept stum in some areas?
 
Chocks away

As has already been said, many times, don't listen to them if you don't want to. But don't try and censor them for those who do.
 
Considering the amount of (what turned out to be) bad advice that has eminated from them over the centuries, might it not be about time that they kept stum in some areas?

Who decides what areas? You?

I agree Liaconn time for this to close.
 
Considering the amount of (what turned out to be) bad advice that has eminated from them over the centuries, might it not be about time that they kept stum in some areas?

As we are dragging up the past.

So we should vote 'no' because of what the Germans did twice last century ?
 
As we are dragging up the past.

So we should vote 'no' because of what the Germans did twice last century ?
In Hitler's Pope it was stated that Rome exhorted young Germans to join Hitler's youth movement. They being deemed a better bet than communists.
 
In Hitler's Pope it was stated that Rome exhorted young Germans to join Hitler's youth movement. They being deemed a better bet than communists.


This thread is starting to go way over the top. I agree that it should be closed.
 
I don't see how giving a true example should cause a thread to be closed. Unless you believe in censorship.
 
Considering the amount of (what turned out to be) bad advice that has eminated from them over the centuries, might it not be about time that they kept stum in some areas?


I don't see how giving a true example should cause a thread to be closed. Unless you believe in censorship.
Good grief not at all, however it seems from the above that you do believe in and indeed advocate it.
 
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Giving advice is a little like censorship, ie different sides of the same coin. If you promote something, then you ignore/castigate the opposite. Like all organisations, the church cannot give impartial advice. The rudimentary tenet of growing a business is by pushing it's agenda either openly or by subterfuge. Of course, if you don't agree that the church is a business .........
 
The Church is there to state the Church's view, they are not the referendum Commission. I don't know what your agenda is but, as has now been said about a million times, don't listen to them if you don't want to.
 
The Church is there to state the Church's view, they are not the referendum Commission. I don't know what your agenda is but, as has now been said about a million times, don't listen to them if you don't want to.
You cannot help but listen/read/see. It was on all the news reels on radio and TV and got front page in the papers. And they should have specified that it was OK to vote either way. No?
 
You cannot help but listen/read/see. It was on all the news reels on radio and TV and got front page in the papers. And they should have specified that it was OK to vote either way. No?

What on earth are you on about? Either take their view on board if it matters to you, or don't. Or are you saying that anyone whose views you don't like or agree with should not get any airtime or media coverage?
 
Personally I hope the YES vote gets through. But I don't think the church should get involved - trying to sway support either way. That was, and still is, my gripe.
 
So all the practising Catholics in the country, who want to know the Church's view, should not be entitled to hear it?

What was it you said about censorship?
 
Conscience should dictate. After all, that is what it's for. As Hamlet said "Conscience makes cowards of us all".