What restraints do you envision the bishops can put on such individuals? What avenues do they have open to them? How would such "lunatic fringe" individuals respond to the imposition of these measures?
Chocks Away - face up to it. They did the most sensible and politically the most neutral thing. In answer to your original question, they didn't overstep the mark.
It would seem to me that in your eyes it is a case of damned if you do and damned if you don't. If they had kept their mouths shut and allowed Cóir et al to pretend to be their mouthpiece you would have believed them to be making a political statement. By explicitly distancing themselves from such organisations and stating categorically that they take no position on it and that it is a political matter for individual catholics to decide you accuse them of interfering.
I can only assume from all of that that your only preference in the matter is that they disappear altogether - hardly an unbiased position to start from in commenting on them.
Considering the amount of (what turned out to be) bad advice that has eminated from them over the centuries, might it not be about time that they kept stum in some areas?
Considering the amount of (what turned out to be) bad advice that has eminated from them over the centuries, might it not be about time that they kept stum in some areas?
In Hitler's Pope it was stated that Rome exhorted young Germans to join Hitler's youth movement. They being deemed a better bet than communists.As we are dragging up the past.
So we should vote 'no' because of what the Germans did twice last century ?
In Hitler's Pope it was stated that Rome exhorted young Germans to join Hitler's youth movement. They being deemed a better bet than communists.
Considering the amount of (what turned out to be) bad advice that has eminated from them over the centuries, might it not be about time that they kept stum in some areas?
Yes, basically that was my point. But I also feel that the top brass in the church should have reined in the rightwingers in Coir and Alive mag. How can two sides of the same organisation have such conflicting ideals? On both sides this is not freedom of speech, it is the manipulation of their position to influence people that kowtow to them. The time has come [IMHO] for the separation of church and state.
Good grief not at all, however it seems from the above that you do believe in and indeed advocate it.I don't see how giving a true example should cause a thread to be closed. Unless you believe in censorship.
You cannot help but listen/read/see. It was on all the news reels on radio and TV and got front page in the papers. And they should have specified that it was OK to vote either way. No?The Church is there to state the Church's view, they are not the referendum Commission. I don't know what your agenda is but, as has now been said about a million times, don't listen to them if you don't want to.
You cannot help but listen/read/see.
You cannot help but listen/read/see. It was on all the news reels on radio and TV and got front page in the papers. And they should have specified that it was OK to vote either way. No?
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