Question on moving into Public Service roles

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HappyDude

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Hey folks,

apologies if this has been asked before, but couldn't find a clear answer. I'm currently interviewing with a few different roles in the public service, ranging from EO/SEO/HEO grades. As i'm coming from the private sector, there's a degree of formality that i'm trying to understand.

If I take a role, even a temporary contract at EO level, am I still able to participate in an external/open competition for a higher role such as SEO/HEO? Or am I locked into the 'rank' for a period of time? Even if this were to be switching between different state bodies?

I'm not sure if this is also a difference between the civil service, vs public service jobs.

Hope that makes sense, and appreciate any perspectives!
 
Thanks for the quick reply! I wish I could find it, but it must have been role specific I was reading which had some text about a 2 year time in role requirement - before applying for another grade, but guessing that could also have been a promotion condition which would make sense - rather than applying for a new role.

Thanks again!
 
The 2 year condition probably relates to the time needed before you could apply for internal promotions i.e. promotion competitions limited to those already in the system.

External competitions by contrast are open to everyone and so you can continue to apply for these even if you’ve only recently accepted a position.

In terms of preference, the agencies are generally more specialist and can offer more attractive terms than the Civil Service of HSE. They may be more limited however in terms of scope for promotion and mobility.

The CS has a better reputation than the HSE in terms of a place to work. There is good opportunity for mobility between government departments within the CS structure but no mobility between the CS and HSE.

In both the CS and HSE, the grades are more generalist (EO, HEO etc) although you are likely to put into a role (e.g. a policy area) that will require you to develop specialist knowledge.

Given the choice of the CS and the HSE, the CS is probably a more progressive long term choice.
 
Dr Strangelove said:
Semi-state bodies often have their own T&Cs.
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Is there any kind of general consensus on which semi-states offer the most attractive overall package? For example, is there any semi states where there is a clamor of candidates trying to get jobs with? I have often wondered if semi-states offered a best of both worlds scenario between public and private sectors.
 
Salvadore said:
The 2 year condition probably relates to the time needed before you could apply for internal promotions i.e. promotion competitions limited to those already in the system.

External competitions by contrast are open to everyone and so you can continue to apply for these even if you’ve only recently accepted a position.

In terms of preference, the agencies are generally more specialist and can offer more attractive terms than the Civil Service of HSE. They may be more limited however in terms of scope for promotion and mobility.

The CS has a better reputation than the HSE in terms of a place to work. There is good opportunity for mobility between government departments within the CS structure but no mobility between the CS and HSE.

In both the CS and HSE, the grades are more generalist (EO, HEO etc) although you are likely to put into a role (e.g. a policy area) that will require you to develop specialist knowledge.

Given the choice of the CS and the HSE, the CS is probably a more progressive long term choice.
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Thank you!
 
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