Can't see what good it would do. Occ Health will tell me they have a broken ankle (I knew that) and they will fit for work once the bones have healed (I knew that too).
Skiing holidays don't sem as popular these days so it's not an issue anymore.
It's more difficult if it's certifed and in fairness, you can't ask people to wrap themselves in cotton wool outside of work. I played hurling and rugby and got a few knocks in my time but none of them were serious enough to warrant time off.
You could refer them to your company doctor (if you have one) or occ health specialist for a 2nd opinion/helping your employee as part of your responsibilities.
I think uncertified sick leave should be unpaid.
So when a med worker (nurse, surgeon, doctor or cleaner) is sick they should go into work anyway.
What a great idea
The point was uncertified leave. If they're sick they can get a a certificate and therefore be paid.
A cert costs €60 to get, if you are feeling like a dog in the morning you know you are sick but reckon it is just a bad cold, do you need to go to the doctor to have him tell you you have a cold?
A cert costs €60 to get, if you are feeling like a dog in the morning you know you are sick but reckon it is just a bad cold, do you need to go to the doctor to have him tell you you have a cold?
Well what do you propose then?
I think the general point is that they are not actually sick and not feeling like a dog.
I know when that report was relased a few weeks ago about PS sick days(I can't recall the average but think it was 11 days) I mentioned it to my brother who works in HSE.
He's in a department of 8-10 people. He ran through them all in his head and reckons they all took in excess of average off in the last year. No serious illnesses - just colds and flu (that lasted a day maybe 2), upset tummy, just not feeling right.
A cert costs €60 to get, if you are feeling like a dog in the morning you know you are sick but reckon it is just a bad cold, do you need to go to the doctor to have him tell you you have a cold?
And also, and especially in my case, my local doctor (GP) doesnt give appointment times, so you sit in the waiting room to be seen, no secretary or receptionist either. So you could be left sitting for a couple of hours depending on how busy they are, and they are busy at the moment. I would only ever go to a doctor if I knew I was sick enough to be out more than 2 days and usually I would need an antibiotic.
If the Indo ran an article that said "loads" would you accept it though?
But I wonder how many people had accidents in work or made costly or dangerous mistakes, due to turning up for work when they weren't fit.
If the Indo ran an article that said "loads" would you accept it though?
A cert costs €60 to get, if you are feeling like a dog in the morning you know you are sick but reckon it is just a bad cold, do you need to go to the doctor to have him tell you you have a cold?
I would certainly accept this condition myself in my job anyway - surely there is a very good chance that there would be savings made if the days lost due to alleged sick day abuse is even half true? Those PS workers who maintain that their sick leave is minimal would still have their few days a year to use.
I was referring to the above and the fact that most PS workers seemingly don't believe a word the Indo says.
On Colm5's point, how easy would it be to increase annual leave by a few days and total to be used for holidays and/or uncertified illness? All other uncertified illness = loss of pay.
I would certainly accept this condition myself in my job anyway - surely there is a very good chance that there would be savings made if the days lost due to alleged sick day abuse is even half true? Those PS workers who maintain that their sick leave is minimal would still have their few days a year to use.
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