Proposed European Super League


Perez has a point but only because some clubs (like his) spent vast amounts to try to keep up with the clubs owned by very deep pockets - started by Chelsea but mainly Man City, PSG etc. Perez and others gambled on TV rights continuing to increase but in the last 2 years the rights have peaked - essentially his gamble didn't pay off

It's not about football - or sport even. Perez has for a while talked about turning football into a form of content creation aimed at mobile and online consumption (e.g. he has suggested putting the last 15 mins of games behind paywalls). So I think he is thinking more about creating a Netflix mini-series more like The Crown than a football league
 
If Perez wants to save football, he can start by not offering people like Bale and Hazard contracts of over €600,0000 per week......

Wonder who will be the first club to jump ship....I think it will be City...
 
This is another case of the "rich" clubs wanting to get richer and to hell with the rest of the decent clubs..
 
joer said:
This is another case of the "rich" clubs wanting to get richer and to hell with the rest of the decent clubs..
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Again, they sold their souls 20 years ago. They aren't clubs, they are businesses with one single aim; make money for their owners. I don't know why anyone is surprised by this.

Everyone here with a premium rate subscription or who has spent €50 on a replica shirt is part of the problem. The owners know that many of the same people who are now irate will keep feeding the monster so they keep growing the monster.
 
Sunny said:
If Perez wants to save football, he can start by not offering people like Bale and Hazard contracts of over €600,0000 per week......

Wonder who will be the first club to jump ship....I think it will be City...
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I wonder if the threat of expulsion from this year's competition has City spooked with them so close
 
I am just gobsmacked that they think this will work.
I am not scandalised by the money aspect. In fact money is a very democratic force. If TV revenues go up it is coz folk are tuning in more, I just can't see how that will happen but I guess they know their business better than I.
The format has clearly been designed to maximise interest through the season. At least one of the "leagues" should maintain interest and knock-outs always retain interest. By contrast, what a bore the Premiership this season has turned out to be with the only interest remaining being as to who will fill the third and fourth slots.
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If the main title race is a dud, we won't even have that in the consolation in the premiership i.e. the race for the champions league places will be no more? I can't see them accomodating a 7th english team based on 'performance' or whatever.
 
Purple said:
Everyone here with a premium rate subscription or who has spent €50 on a replica shirt is part of the problem. The owners know that many of the same people who are now irate will keep feeding the monster so they keep growing the monster.
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Yes and no.
Football is an entertainment business for sure. Always has been, but as you point out the milking of that cash cow only began in earnest with the Premier League.
Football in the '80s was hooliganism and and decaying stadiums - Hysel, Bradford, Hillsborough. Money brought a lot of goods things, fán safety, families, better facilities, better coaching and footballers.

As a subscriber, I'm simply paying for access to a service I enjoy. A big part of that service is that I more or less have an armchair season ticket watch my favourite team, Liverpool FC.
A team steeped in glory, with a huge European tradition, who have won only ONE Premier League title in 30YRS!! Just one!
And for that, they are awarded a guaranteed position in a ESL?

Not quite, they are guaranteed a position in a ESL because of their branding and revenue streams, not because of their success on the football field.

Someone paying subscriptions to endure the pain and dejection of losing, in hope of experiencing the elation and joy of winning a game of football are being rolled over and squeezed by people who get their kicks out of a surplus income and expenditure account, or a big contract for merchandise rights.

I have no issue issue with a ESL, because there is one already, called the Champions League.
But when UEFA banned Man City for breaches of Financial Fair Play it was probably only a matter of time before other elite owners decided it was time for change.

That is the battle here, the money men versus the hearts and minds of the football supporters.
Jurgen Klopp asked "who wants to see Liverpool v Real Madrid every year for next 10yrs", meaning, part of the allure of European competition is the big clubs playing each other on merit, not by regulation.

But unfortunately he said that as Liverpool were to take the field against Leeds Utd.
No disrespect to Leeds.
 
WolfeTone said:
No disrespect to Leeds.
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Not after the game anyway.
WolfeTone said:
they are guaranteed a position in a ESL because of their branding and revenue streams, not because of their success on the football field.
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Yep, same with Arsenal and Tottenham, clubs that have won nothing worth winning for decades.
The reality is that Liverpool can make more money in Nigeria than they can from fans in their home city. The brand is what holds value. In fact you might see Liverpool move to London in order to attract players and overseas fans (better access for fans and, lets face it, Liverpool is a kip). Same for one of the Manchester clubs. They will be franchises, just like the NFL.
 
I have a great interest in the Premier League and have never bought a jersey of any kind .
That said my son has bought lots of Newcastle jerseys since he was very young. I know I know what a frustrated magpie he is
 
Another point about this ESL. Their statement shows a total disregard for women's football by only providing a token, long-fingered, mention of their being a women's ESL.
It's 2021, professional women footballers should not have to put with this clear gender bias that there will be a women's ESL in due course.
 
Can't believe Spurs haven't been knocked out yet. They will probably be the last to drop out and claim to have won the competition. Sorry Deise! I honestly do like Spurs!!!
 
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