Property sellers are blaming first time buyers

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I have read a few letters into newspapers and comments online from people who can't sell their property.
They are blaming the current property market crisis on "greedy FTB's", greedy because they are waiting for the market to bottom out before buying.
Can you believe their nerve of these people or do you reckon the were just trying provoke readers?
 
I have read a few letters into newspapers and comments online from people who can't sell their property.
They are blaming the current property market crisis on "greedy FTB's", greedy because they are waiting for the market to bottom out before buying.
Can you believe their nerve of these people or do you reckon the were just trying provoke readers?

Sellers were called greedy for holding out for higher prices and gazumping so its all a matter of perspective and which side of the fence you are on.
 
I guess thats true but to blame somebody for not wanting to get into negative equity, which is what will you will be more in month after monthfor the next 5 to 10, years is a bit much
 
That's rediculous! Fianna Fail and they're builder mates (well, maybe ex mates now) have created this monster...
 
I guess thats true but to blame somebody for not wanting to get into negative equity, which is what will you will be more in month after monthfor the next 5 to 10, years is a bit much

Well some might say that your predictions are some way off but each to their own.
 
Nostradamus, is this one of your canny predictions? Or fact?
 
That's rediculous! Fianna Fail and they're builder mates (well, maybe ex mates now) have created this monster...

Whats ridiculous? Without getting in to the whole debate again, people bought what they were offered and the builders didn't force the price of second hand homes up so it can't be simplified down to merely being the fault of a certain group of people.
 
Downturn Mr.Man?

Huge amounts of artificial froth is being extracted from the housing market which was long overdue.

This is very very good news for future generations of Irish home purchasers.

The property hysteria run (fuelled by the VIs) is peetering out. People are slowly realising that Ireland is not different.
 
Downturn Mr.Man?

Huge amounts of artificial froth is being extracted from the housing market which was long overdue.

This is very very good news for future generations of Irish home purchasers.

The property hysteria run (fuelled by the VIs) is peetering out. People are slowly realising that Ireland is not different.

No its not, Mr Man is quite right (as always!). At this time of national crisis is it not unpatriotic for people to be either talking down the market or to be hanging on for unrealistically low prices. The whole econonmy will grind to a halt if this kind of carry on carries on. We need people to get back in there and buying, people to be wheeling and dealing again. Hopefully people like Tom Parlon managed to get things rolling again with the new scheme to help first-time buyers who are denied mortgages by the banks (who themselves are acting against the best interests of this nation).
 
"At this time of national crisis is it not unpatriotic for people to be either talking down the market or to be hanging on for unrealistically low prices."

What has paying 300000 for a shoe box apartment got to do with patriotism?

What is an "unrealistically low price"? A price is whatever you're prepared to pay.

What has actually got us into a crisis has been people borrowing excessively, and banks being prepared to lend to them, against all rational salary multiples.

It might be patriotic for the likes of Mr Grehan to start dropping prices now, and save elongating the pain, instead of coming up with various bizarre ploys to delay the inevitable. It might be patriotic of the Government to stop propping up builders with artificial schemes, and instead spend the money on industry, R&D and education.

From my perspective I stayed out of the market and saved because I was unwilling to go beyond four times salary, and because houses were obviously poor value from 2003. I will remain "unpatriotic" and refrain from buying now. Cash is King during the biggest downturn in thirty years and possibly more.

For a more rational analysis of booms and busts than the emotive one above try the following. It certainly informed my view of the housing bubble we experienced.

http://www.amazon.com/Devil-Take-Hindmost-Financial-Speculation/dp/0452281806
 
That's rediculous! Fianna Fail and they're builder mates (well, maybe ex mates now) have created this monster...

In cahots with the great Irish voting public who have returned them to power so often for the past 20 years. We got the government we deserved.
 
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