Prime Time will have a programme on charities including Peter McVerry tonight

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RTE Prime Time will be covering this some of this topic tonight.

A report on charities regulation by reporter Paul Murphy and producer Isabel Perceval is broadcast on the Thursday 6 June edition of Prime Time at 9.35pm, and also on RTÉ Player.
Also from RTE, publication of an internal report at the Peter McVerry trust:

One document dating from September 2023, one year after the Capuchin donation was made, states that only 9% of the €4.73m donation, or €430,000, was used in accordance with the stated wishes of the donor.

In another breach of its legal agreement, €350,000 of the Capuchin money was transferred to a non-profit company, now called NDP Counselling and Psychotherapy. It is unclear why such a large sum of money was transferred to NDP as it did not provide services to the Peter McVerry Trust.
"There was no commercial link… there was no service link," said David Hall.
After discovering the €350,000 transfer to the psychotherapy company, Mr Doyle's replacement as CEO, Francis Doherty, who resigned after less than five months at the helm, requested that the money be returned to the McVerry Trust, and it was.
In the internal McVerry Trust documents, which post-date Mr Doyle’s departure in May 2023, NDP is described as an "an entity supported by PMVT [Peter McVerry Trust] and where the outgoing CEO Pat Doyle was to take up a permanent role."

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Internal files reveal breach of trust at major housing charity

Internal documents obtained from inside the Peter McVerry Trust show significant breaches of trust between it and donor organisations, and cast new light on issues raised about its corporate governance
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odyssey06 said:
RTE Prime Time will be covering this some of this topic tonight.

A report on charities regulation by reporter Paul Murphy and producer Isabel Perceval is broadcast on the Thursday 6 June edition of Prime Time at 9.35pm, and also on RTÉ Player.
Also from RTE, publication of an internal report at the Peter McVerry trust:

One document dating from September 2023, one year after the Capuchin donation was made, states that only 9% of the €4.73m donation, or €430,000, was used in accordance with the stated wishes of the donor.

In another breach of its legal agreement, €350,000 of the Capuchin money was transferred to a non-profit company, now called NDP Counselling and Psychotherapy. It is unclear why such a large sum of money was transferred to NDP as it did not provide services to the Peter McVerry Trust.
"There was no commercial link… there was no service link," said David Hall.
After discovering the €350,000 transfer to the psychotherapy company, Mr Doyle's replacement as CEO, Francis Doherty, who resigned after less than five months at the helm, requested that the money be returned to the McVerry Trust, and it was.
In the internal McVerry Trust documents, which post-date Mr Doyle’s departure in May 2023, NDP is described as an "an entity supported by PMVT [Peter McVerry Trust] and where the outgoing CEO Pat Doyle was to take up a permanent role."

www.rte.ie

Internal files reveal breach of trust at major housing charity

Internal documents obtained from inside the Peter McVerry Trust show significant breaches of trust between it and donor organisations, and cast new light on issues raised about its corporate governance
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Homeless charities, and domestic charities in general, have replaced the Catholic Church as the unquestionable font of truth and moral guidance. It's funny that a society that was, righty in my opinion, so critical of the abuses of institutions of the RC Church is now so willing to accept as fact the utter drivel trotted out by badly run populist left wing lobby groups masquerading as charities and accept without even the briefest pause the bona fides of the people who run them.
 
T McGibney said:
The night before a double election. By Saturday, even the most shocking revelations will have been memory-holed.

The best little country in the world.
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In fairness, they can't put out a political programme on the evening before voting.

Normally the Prime Time exposés are flogged to death in advance on Morning Ireland. But there was no mention of it during the 90 minutes of MI that I listened to this morning.

Perhaps they're keeping things quiet until transmission in case the lawyers get involved.
 
odyssey06 said:
One document dating from September 2023, one year after the Capuchin donation was made, states that only 9% of the €4.73m donation, or €430,000, was used in accordance with the stated wishes of the donor.

In another breach of its legal agreement, €350,000 of the Capuchin money was transferred to a non-profit company, now called NDP Counselling and Psychotherapy. It is unclear why such a large sum of money was transferred to NDP as it did not provide services to the Peter McVerry Trust.
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Peter McVerry is a Jesuit. Where do the Capuchins come in?
 
Purple said:
fact the utter drivel trotted out by badly run populist left wing lobby groups masquerading as charities and accept without even the briefest pause the bona fides of the people who run them.
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I am confused.

What lobby groups are you referring to?

Some of these charities have been poorly managed from a financial point of view.

But fundamentally they have done and are doing good work.

Some of them are lobbying as part of their work - but if a homeless charity lobbies for the homeless, I am ok with that, even if I disagree with them.

Brendan
 
The Capuchin's donated €4.73 millions with an agreement of how it was to be spent but of course McVerry's outfit couldn't abide by the legal agreement.
Not the only "charity"that think they can run their outfit as they think fit.
The sad thing is that they will get away with it in the end
 
jpd said:
The work done by the many, many charities in Ireland should be done by the State

The State should not offload its responsibility to 3rd parties
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I would mostly agree with you.

However the "charity" sector is huge and is a catch-all for many different things.
There are some areas that the state should stay away from.
Cat rescue charity type is one.

Many of the "larger" charities were set up in a different era
With purely "volunteer" staff their overheads were miniscule so most funds raised went on the cause.

In the main today the "larger" charities have permanent staff with associated costs.
There could be an argument that by taking some of the roles "in house" the duplication of back office staff could be rationalised.
This could achieve some savings which could be redirected to the service been provided.
 
Brendan Burgess said:
I am confused.

What lobby groups are you referring to?

Some of these charities have been poorly managed from a financial point of view.

But fundamentally they have done and are doing good work.

Some of them are lobbying as part of their work - but if a homeless charity lobbies for the homeless, I am ok with that, even if I disagree with them.

Brendan
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The Charities in the Homeless sector don't advocate for the homeless as much as lobby for a particular political agenda. They present those living on the street as homeless and then count young people who are still living with their parents as homeless.

The recent nonsense about one in five children living in deprivation is an example of ridiculous statements that are reported without any critical examination of their veracity.

There is a lack of integrity in how they present their case, more propaganda than data. That culture of playing fast and loose with the facts seems to be matched in some cases by their financial controls.
 
BlackandBlue said:
In the main today the "larger" charities have permanent staff with associated costs.
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You’re right that it’s not all bad. In many cases charities are more agile and supply services cheaper than if the state did it directly.

The problem is often the amateur mindset which leads to amateur outcomes even when everyone involves means well.

And when charity bosses are actively malevolent the state simply doesn’t have oversight.
 
Purple said:
The Charities in the Homeless sector don't advocate for the homeless as much as lobby for a particular political agenda.
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There is a lack of integrity in how they present their case, more propaganda than data. That culture of playing fast and loose with the facts seems to be matched in some cases by their financial controls.
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The McVerry Trust pushed hard for rent controls.

https://x.com/PMVTrust/status/788996939761213440?t=DizFFJ8ULdNnQ1TD0c22Lw&s=19
 
T McGibney said:
The McVerry Trust pushed hard for rent controls.

https://x.com/PMVTrust/status/788996939761213440?t=DizFFJ8ULdNnQ1TD0c22Lw&s=19
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And because a Charity from the Homeless sector advocated for it it must be a good idea. If you don't think it's a good idea then you hate the homeless and are evil and right wing because the charity is good and left wing.
Left wing good, right wing bad (Four legs good, two legs bad. It's all terribly Orwellian.)
 
In case anyone missed the programme, you can watch it here.
www.rte.ie

Internal files reveal breach of trust at major housing charity

Internal documents obtained from inside the Peter McVerry Trust show significant breaches of trust between it and donor organisations, and cast new light on issues raised about its corporate governance
www.rte.ie www.rte.ie

The charities, just like many public bodies it has to be said, always pay themselves first, which tells you everything you need to know about their priorities.

From my standpoint, just as egregious as the failings of the charities themselves, is the falling of the regulator, further emphasised by their refusal to take part in last night's programme. This is another body, paid for by you and I, but where is the accountability?
 
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