Pre-planning meeting with County Council

Battapieman

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Hi,
A potential architect has booked us in for a pre-planning meeting with County Council.

Is he being a tad presumptuous, considering we havent even decided to hire him yet?

With rgds the meeting, what should we look out for in this meet?

What sort of info do they look for in it?

Plus, is there a charge for it?

Finally, any tips for furthering our chances of getting planning permission?

thanks,
Battapieman
 
...Is he being a tad presumptuous, considering we havent even decided to hire him yet?...
Yes.
...With rgds the meeting, what should we look out for in this meet?
What sort of info do they look for in it?
Plus, is there a charge for it?
Finally, any tips for furthering our chances of getting planning permission?
...
These are probably appropriate questions for "your" architect.
I might add one more, "What's the point of such a meeting anyway?"
 
pre planning meetings can be very important as you get a sense of what you will get, i know that this can change afterwards depending on the individual area planner, but there is no point putting in stuff that won't get planning first day, it only delays your planning process, also if you listen to them and incorporate there comments, it can help your application.
If your potential architect was any good he wouldn't really need to meet with the planners as he should know what will get planning. If he has to meet the planners it shows that he hasn't much experience/interaction with them so might be a warning sign to stay clear and go for an architect (if you need to) who deals with the planners on a regular basis.

You don't need a architect to meet the planners, you can meet them yourself and save yourself a lot of money. If you are meeting the planners, make sure you know what house type you want, look in the area you are building and pic something similar..have you looked at house books etc for design? Before you engage an architect, make sure to get a cost for everything as there charges are OTT IMO for the service they provide!!
 
The purpose of a pre-application consultation is to improve the quality of a planning application, to avoid the necessity for seeking additional information where possible, and in some cases to spare the costs of what is likely to prove an unsuccessful application.

Consultations can be of value in applying development plan objectives to a particular site, and especially assessing how the design treatment responds to local context, thus allowing the planning authority to input to design and layout at an early stage. They also allow the planning authority the opportunity to suggest that specialist advice be sought if appropriate e.g. in relation to conservation issues. It also enables the PA to advise applicants of procedural requirements such as planning application requirements, applications likely to involve an EIS, compliance with government guidelines e.g. Rural Housing Guidelines, Sustainable Residential Development Guidelines etc., possible exemptions for minor development and the implications of Building Control Legislation such as fire safety and access for the disabled.

To ensure the consultation is productive, you may be required to submit a certain minimum level of documentation in advance of a pre-planning meeting e.g. a site location map, contact details, approx. size of site, description of the proposed development etc. Each local authority will have its own requirements. There is no charge involved in organising a pre-planning meeting.

The overall aim is to identify any potential issues arising from a development proposal at an early enough stage in the design process, in order to avoid needless delays and/or costs after an application has been lodged. As an architect (whoever you choose) will ultimately be the designer, it seems reasonable to me that they would want to be present at such a meeting.
 
My advice is not to bother at all with a pre-planning meeting as any agreements made at this meeting are non binding with respect to a planning applications. Planners are changed regularly and there is no guarantee that the person who you are meeting at the pre-planning will actually be vetting your application.
I have gone thru the whole process and the best I can give is to really ask yourself is the architect you are using to draw your plans, submit your application and interface with the council up to the job.
In my case I enquired locally who the sucessfull aplications had used for their planning application and used him. The council like to see applications from somebody who they are also familiar with.
Check out all recent applications and see what type of houses are getting planning. Check out things like fascia colour, natural stone etc and see what your council is currently for and against.
Also I would inform your local councillar/TD of your application. It will help guaranteed!!!!!!!!!

Hope the above helps
 
If your architect was any good, he/she would probably advise you against the planning meeting as it is a waste of time. They should be dealing daily or at least weekly with the planning department regarding other applications and should be aware of the strategic developement of the area, acceptable house heights, design, wastewater treatment etc. You shouldn't need to worry about such details as you are paying someone to design a house than will recieve planning permission. Your architect sounds very presumtious, and as you haven't hired them yet, don't feel oblidged in any way to hire them, booking a pre-planning meeting is only a matter of filling in a very short form and posting it to them. BTW, pre-planning meetings in my local council are held in a completely different office and town to where the actual planning applications are sent and decisions are made. Best of luck with the house, I hope everything works out well
 
If you do go ahead with the meeting, ensure that you are clear with the architect that you are not paying for his/her time until you have agreed to proceed.