Plans to help the Economy - posters suggestions.

The many tax breaks kindly provided by McCreevy and Cowan pay nothing near their fair share of tax at present, and yet you propose another break?
What specific tax breaks are you referring to? How do tax breaks pay their fair share of tax?


Try understanding the words rather than digging up irrelevant historical context or making up extreme hypothetical cases, and you might just find some enlightenment.
Nothing made up there. The words are part of the communist manifesto. That is fact. As for their meaning, perhaps you would care to enlighten us as to the meaning of the words?
 
Are you suggesting the Irish government should start drilling for oil? Maybe we should aside a certain percentage of our GDP to play the Euromillions lottery as well?
I didn't suggest the state drill for oil anywhere in my post.
 
What specific tax breaks are you referring to? How do tax breaks pay their fair share of tax?
Tax breaks are income foregone to the state. Some will argue that the economic activity would not have happened without the tax break. However, it is very, very hard to see any justification for the state subsidies given to the property industry, the horse-racing industry and the private medical industry for a start - these are all big enough to stand on their own feet.
Nothing made up there. The words are part of the communist manifesto. That is fact. As for their meaning, perhaps you would care to enlighten us as to the meaning of the words?
Purple's 'drug addict' scenario was indeed 'made up' and was indeed an extreme example. The meaning of the words is self-explanatory. Just read them.
 
I simply suggested that we should look at a system where once an individual has paid a certain amount of tax they stop paying. Get down off the socialist moral high-ground.



The words you quoted are from the communist manifesto.
History shows us what happens when well meaning but extremist, dangerous and stupid policies are followed.
It shows how utterly bankrupt Marx's fundamentalism is; to ignore it is folly.

My example was given to shown how absurd Marxism is.
 
History shows us what happens when well meaning but extremist, dangerous and stupid policies are followed.

I wonder what historians will be saying in a hundred years about the domination of neo liberalist ideology at the beginning of this century.
 
I wonder what historians will be saying in a hundred years about the domination of neo liberalist ideology at the beginning of this century.
Neo-Liberalism has had 8 years as the dominant political ideology in the USA but it was never all encompassing or anywhere near as extreme as Communism or fascism. It was never dominant in Europe or anywhere else in the world so I don't see how it can be described as the dominant ideology in a global context and certainly not in an Irish context.
 
What has any of this to do with the topic being discussed: Plans to help the Economy - posters suggestions.

Time to shut this thread imho
 

The neo liberal economic agenda is the dominant economic agenda in Europe over the last ten years or more. A plan to help the economy? Question very carefully the dominance of this model and its implication for the health and education of our children.
 
A plan to help the economy? Question very carefully the dominance of this model and its implication for the health and education of our children.

Sorry for the life of me I can't see how that is going "to help the economy", ie get us out of recession?

If you want to discuss the relative merits of neo-liberalism and marxism on another thread, feel free do so...