For all the hits the public service have taken, is there any public servant that would leave his/her permanent job for a similar job in the private sector in the current economic climate? Not likely...and rightly so, much too cushy and safe!
What sort of a post is this? Is there anybody is any job who would be stupid enough to leave it in this present climate?
There are some serious 'chip on shoulder' types and 'whingers' posting here at the moment.
For all the hits the public service have taken, is there any public servant that would leave his/her permanent job for a similar job in the private sector in the current economic climate? Not likely...and rightly so, much too cushy and safe!
That's just the start.
Public and civil servants need many more pay and job cuts so that Ireland can start to become competitive again. We need to try to close the private/public gulf that has opened up.
That's just the start.
Public and civil servants need many more pay and job cuts so that Ireland can start to become competitive again. We need to try to close the private/public gulf that has opened up.
I see that IAA management have now acknowledged that a bona fide dispute exists between them and Impact and that the Labour Court will now address all pay,pension and new technology matters.
Bit late in the day I would have thought.
An example of appalling management surely !
So how much of a paycut needs to be taken on top of whats already been taken?
The paycuts that have taken place have nothing to do with the govt not being able to afford wages (bailing the banks out) or anything else, the reason the govt is cutting wages is so IBEC can drop wages in the Private sector and then chop the minimum wage
I'm just wondering what level of paycuts umop3p!sdn would find acceptable.
I'm just wondering what level of paycuts umop3p!sdn would find acceptable.
What sort of a post is this? Is there anybody is any job who would be stupid enough to leave it in this present climate?
The point is that the gulf in public & private sector wages, pensions and conditions remains so large with the result that there is no movement out or into the public sector which is not healthy. All organisations need new blood but when you have a job where you cant be fired if permanent(almost), promotions are not based on merit but on length of service and pensions are very generous, it means nobody will ever leave and stagnation.
In the 1970s & 80s people working in the PS (councils in particular) were seen as having cushy jobs and safe jobs but there was a perception that most were badly paid jobs. Now, they still have the cushy, safe jobs but the perception is that they are also highly paid when the whole package is taken into account. I think thats where people have issues with.
The point is that the gulf in public & private sector wages, pensions and conditions remains so large with the result that there is no movement out or into the public sector which is not healthy. All organisations need new blood but when you have a job where you cant be fired if permanent(almost), promotions are not based on merit but on length of service and pensions are very generous, it means nobody will ever leave and stagnation.
In the 1970s & 80s people working in the PS (councils in particular) were seen as having cushy jobs and safe jobs but there was a perception that most were badly paid jobs. Now, they still have the cushy, safe jobs but the perception is that they are also highly paid when the whole package is taken into account. I think thats where people have issues with.
I was responding to a post where it was stated that prohibiting civil services from striking can't be done. I asked why could it not put to the people to vote - ie a constitutuinal change if necessary. I never mentioned anything about sorting out the whole problem
That's just the start.
Public and civil servants need many more pay and job cuts so that Ireland can start to become competitive again. We need to try to close the private/public gulf that has opened up.
For all the hits the public service have taken, is there any public servant that would leave his/her permanent job for a similar job in the private sector in the current economic climate? Not likely...and rightly so, much too cushy and safe!
The paycuts that have taken place have nothing to do with the govt not being able to afford wages (bailing the banks out) or anything else, the reason the govt is cutting wages is so IBEC can drop wages in the Private sector and then chop the minimum wage
why does job security automatically imply that the jobs themselves are cushy?
That's complete rubbish. For one thing most employers in the private sector are not in IBEC. You should also remember that wages were being cut in the private sector long before the government cut them for public servants.
And why does job security automatically imply that the jobs themselves are cushy?
Maybe you should ask that question to the 400,000 people on the dole.
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