Secondly you are talking rubbish and it seems to me you are just trying to wind up the op.
You judge the op for what seem to me to be fairly reasonable driving decisions.
and praise the truck driver for what is clearly dangerous driving.
I think you need to double check the specific rule of the road re overtaking and see if you were technically correct or incorrect. If incorrect you should accept the points. If it's a grey area or you were technically correct, then I would appeal. Good luck.
Television you are talking rubbish, by your logic nobody should never overtake (the vehicle driving in front is always going to be unpredictable and never ever predictable), i just cant predict these things but if you can you must be able to see into the future which i guess you can't or you would have been able to answer my question on original post instead of talking nonsense,
as i said driving conditions were perfect, i had a chance to overtake a slow moving lorry. What's wrong with that?
A policeman will rarely be argued down even if he realizes he's made a mistake.
He'll be hyped up to some extent on adrenalin, essentially confronting someone he's never met before, which can come across as aggression or just unreasonableness.
The Garda who approaches will be the one who thought he saw an offense, usually he'll have another Garda or two back in the car so it looks bad to return and say "made a mistake there, chap made some good points".
If pulled in look intimidated and apologetic. Difficult if you haven't a clue why he's pulled you, say due to a complete mistake, as it makes the self incriminatory answer to "do you know why I stopped you" difficult. Being relaxed because you're sure of your innocence unfortunately is red flag to a bull territory.
There a chance if the Garda thinks he's frightened you that'll be victory enough for him to just issue a warning especially if the case isn't clear cut.
In this case however I wouldn't bother appealing it'll drag out the worry and annoyance by 6+ months, and in the brief few words you're likely to get to explain yourself to the judge it'll be hard to get around the fact that at some point no matter how unavoidably a solid white line was crossed.
If you're thinking of appealing and are unfamiliar with courts I'd recommend you drop in to the courthouse first and have a look at what you're likely to encounter. Let's just say it's a long way from Ally McBeal.
it'll be hard to get around the fact that at some point no matter how unavoidably a solid white line was crossed. .
Television first of all its reckless not wreckless. Secondly you are talking rubbish and it seems to me you are just trying to wind up the op.
You judge the op for what seem to me to be fairly reasonable driving decisions, and praise the truck driver for what is clearly dangerous driving. The truck driver increased his speed deliberately when the op tried to overtake legally, to try to force the op back behind his vehicle. That is disgraceful driving IMO and could easily have caused an accident.
Sounds to me like the garda made a bad call on this one. I think it's wrong that people are not given an opportunity to defend themselves in court without running the risk of getting additional penalty points, but that's the way it is unfortunately.
I think you need to double check the specific rule of the road re overtaking and see if you were technically correct or incorrect. If incorrect you should accept the points. If it's a grey area or you were technically correct, then I would appeal. Good luck.
Kate.
See thats the point really, the original poster and perhaps you too, should understand the rules of the road before you drive. Not try and retrospectivly look for validation or legality.
I understand the rules of the road just fine and i'm sure kate10 dose also but you are missing the point.
I was prevented completing a perfectaly legal maneuver by some idiot who broke the law by speeding up as i was overtaking him, it's not as black and white as you want to make it
I agree, it seems that the truck driver was the one who drove incorrectly. Speeding up when someone is overtaking (whether the latter is doing so correctly or not) is extremely dangerous.
The truck driver was wrong to speed up. The OP was wrong for what he did. I find it hard to believe that the OP did not see any evidence of the potential for a continous white line ahead.
What to do when somebody overtakes you
- Continue at the same pace.
- Keep as near to the left as is safe to do so.
- Do not accelerate.
- Be alert in case the overtaking vehicle suddenly pulls back in front of you.
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