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Lilywhite
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Yes, but where will it all end? There is no Plan B..........
OT rants about teachers, guards and other public servants removed (AGAIN)
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Re: 10 things that dont make sense about the McCarthy Report. (OT material removed)
also from the same article
"The average initial starting salary for an honours bachelor degree graduate was €21,000 to €24,999"
i just dont understand then why teachers have to start on so much money!!
also from the same article
"The average initial starting salary for an honours bachelor degree graduate was €21,000 to €24,999"
i just dont understand then why teachers have to start on so much money!!
Re: 10 things that dont make sense about the McCarthy Report. (OT material removed)
Nurses get the same!
Nurses get the same!
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Perhaps because they are highly educated and have very responsible positions.
Perhaps because they are highly educated and have very responsible positions.
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I would presume that anyone that applied their mind could learn quite a lot in three years , would'nt you ?
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Why don't you tell us what you do and what you earn and then we will decide if you are worth it or not.
Why don't you tell us what you do and what you earn and then we will decide if you are worth it or not.
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We have the best paid teachers in the OECD. See graph on page 58 of [broken link removed]. It's a good read on the link between classroom sizes and salaries.
So much money??
These people are resposible for our childrens education and their safety whilst in their care and you think thats 'so much money'?
We have the best paid teachers in the OECD. See graph on page 58 of [broken link removed]. It's a good read on the link between classroom sizes and salaries.
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+1.
Also what type of person do you want teaching our children?
If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys..
So much money??
These people are resposible for our childrens education and their safety whilst in their care and you think thats 'so much money'?
+1.
Also what type of person do you want teaching our children?
If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys..
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Problem being that for every dedicated teacher ther seems to be a less than dedicated one and there are plenty of inept ones in the mix too. So paying big bucks still results in getting monkeys.
Performance related contracts might be worth looking at if we really want the best.
Problem being that for every dedicated teacher ther seems to be a less than dedicated one and there are plenty of inept ones in the mix too. So paying big bucks still results in getting monkeys.
Performance related contracts might be worth looking at if we really want the best.
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z104
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I would be happy to give teachers a good wage from my taxes if they worked a full week for it every week.
Performance related pay based on exam reults of the pupils
Possiblly a weighting given to pay teachers extra for working in disadvantaged areas.
21 days holiday per year paid and a 39 hour working week.
If they want to continue working the lifestyle hours they do work then pay them by the hour.
Performance related pay based on exam reults of the pupils
Possiblly a weighting given to pay teachers extra for working in disadvantaged areas.
21 days holiday per year paid and a 39 hour working week.
If they want to continue working the lifestyle hours they do work then pay them by the hour.
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z104
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Re: 10 things that dont make sense about the McCarthy Report. (OT material removed)
How much of their day is babysitting and how much is teaching?
What's the average pay of a childminder these days?
So much money??
These people are resposible for our childrens education and their safety whilst in their care and you think thats 'so much money'?
How much of their day is babysitting and how much is teaching?
What's the average pay of a childminder these days?
truthseeker
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This is a tough one though - it doesnt matter how good of a teacher you are, if you have a student who is not good academically he or she just will not do as well. There may be many reasons, not just being from a disadvantaged area.
Or indeed if the teacher is not good academically!
The starting salary in the UK is 19.5k. ish.
A teaching job is no more stressfull than any other position in my opinion. For all the holidays etc they get, and 7 hours work a day? I would gladly swap.
Why don't you then?
Do you know anyone willing to swap?
I already have my Master's in Education (may help), and currently work in the transport industry.
My job requires 4 years 'on the job' training, after the academic side is done. I cannot see anyone queing up to swap in the current climate.
I already have my Master's in Education (may help), and currently work in the transport industry.
My job requires 4 years 'on the job' training, after the academic side is done. I cannot see anyone queing up to swap in the current climate.
Where did you get 7 hours a day from? They work 21 hours a week in secondary school and about 5 hours a day in primary.
I am working on the basis of a secondary school starting at 0900 and finishing at 1600, which is what my old school did.
My son is at primary. He starts at 0915 and finishes at 1515.
If you average out the hours over a full (working, not academic) year then I suppose the hours would be lower.
A friend of mine is a primary teacher in Dublin and travels 3 hours home each Friday. She is home by 6.
My son is at primary. He starts at 0915 and finishes at 1515.
If you average out the hours over a full (working, not academic) year then I suppose the hours would be lower.
A friend of mine is a primary teacher in Dublin and travels 3 hours home each Friday. She is home by 6.
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