NTMA Cut State Savings Rates - 5 October 2014

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T?he NTMA have cut State Savings rates today. Press release below.

 
This cut was not unexpected given that the rates were out of line with deposit rates and sovereign yields.

I will update the best buy threads. The new grossed up equivalents will follow at a later stage.
 
Not unexpected as you say. Appalling rates now being offered, hardly worth the hassle of having your money tied up for such a poor rate. Normally a couple of banks complain about state savings rates before these cuts, dont recall any this time.
 
'The new rates reflect the NTMA’s requirement to ensure that the rates paid on State Savings products are competitive.'

Cutting ensures they are competitive - doesn't make sense to me.
 
As mentioned in another thread I bought EUR1200 worth of 3 yr bonds at 4% (aer 1.32%) last Friday. More luck than judgement in this case.
 
'The new rates reflect the NTMA’s requirement to ensure that the rates paid on State Savings products are competitive.'

Cutting ensures they are competitive - doesn't make sense to me.

It ensures that the rates are more in line with their competitors. The NTMA were overpaying, versus the competition, prior to this cut.
 
New grossed up equivalent AER rates attached below.

These are the rates that banks would need to pay to match State Savings rates.

 

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I first invested in State Savings about 2 weeks ago with all the ID etc. I get the impression that they send you a "customer card" making it easier to make subsequent purchases. How long will this take? I'd like to add a bit more the way things are going.
 
It's a few years since I got one, think it took a few weeks but can't be too exact. Did you invest in a 4 or 10 year Solidarity Bond? As far as I know these are the only ones the card applies to. I can't understand why the card can't be used to purchase Savings Certs or Bonds.
 
the ntma sold €500m of 6 month bonds at a negative rate of interest today. I would expect the already woeful rates on state savings to be cut again very soon.

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19 March 2015 – The National Treasury Management Agency (NTMA) has today completed an auction of Irish Treasury Bills, selling the target amount of €500 million.

Total bids received amounted to €1.965 billion which was 3.93 times the amount on offer. The Treasury Bills, which have a maturity of six months, were sold at a yield of -0.01%.
 
the ntma sold €500m of 6 month bonds at a negative rate of interest today.

Negative yield, not a negative interest rate.

I would expect the already woeful rates on state savings to be cut again very soon

Yeah, the NTMA say that State Savings rates are linked to sovereign yields and deposit rates. State Savings products of all maturities pay well above sovereign yields now and for longer dated maturities pay well above deposits. Another drop is surely coming.
 
NTMA State Savings products, as at today, are higher than deposit rates for all terms of 3 years and longer.

Also, the gap between NTMA State Savings product rates and sovereign yields has grown in recent weeks.

NTMA cut coming?
 
It will probably take about a month for the card to arrive.

If you paid by cheque, they'll cash this early on. After 3-4 weeks you will get a statement/receipt of lodgement. About a week after that you will get the card.

Thanks for this, the card came after about 4 weeks, just before I was travelling so I was able to redirect some funds.

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NTMA cut coming?

Bank holiday weekend!!
 
Just back from local post office getting another 10 year bond in case rate drops this weekend. My bet is it will happen June bank holiday.
 
Thanks, maybe history will repeat. State Savings rates are once again out of sync with deposit rate and sovereign yields.