Juliekeenan
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Can you try to contact the vendor from 2012 directly?The house was empty for the previous few years and we cannot now get the cert or confirmation that there is nothing owing for the years prior to us living there.
YEAR OF CHARGE | AMOUNT DUE | |
2009 | €2070 | |
2010 | €1830 | |
2011 | €1470 | |
2012 | €1110 | |
2013 | €750 | |
Total | €7230 |
If you lived in the house from 2012 and 2013 then there would not be any NPPR due, but you would have to get a certificate stating that, I am not sure if it is from your local County County that you request it. The NPPR is due even if it is not lived in providing it is not your PPR.We are trying to sell our house however when we bought the house in 2012
You don't even need receipts. You can just sign a sworn declaration with your solicitor that you are not liable for 12 and 13.
I needed an exemption for the sale of my late parents-in-law's house in 2017. Dublin City Council said that they needed utility bills to prove that they were were living there and I was able to pull them together.
Not sure if a sworn declaration is enough. I have read on AAM that some CCs are more relaxed than others.
@Juliekeenan You will be able to prove 2012 and 2013 yourself. Liability expires after 12 years so there will only be a cost for 2010 and 2011. This is only really an issue for the purchaser if they want to sell very soon, which is unlikely. After 2023 all liability will have disappeared and they will be free to sell.
Your solicitor should talk to theirs. A few hundred euros off the purchase price might be the simplest way to deal with this.
My apologies, you are right.Well I know the sworn declaration is enough with Fingal and Dublin County Council.
If you were not liable for the NPPR charge and require a Letter of Exemption, please complete and return the Application and Statutory Declaration form. This form needs to be witnessed by a practicing solicitor, Peace Commissioner or Commissioner for Oaths.
Certificates of Discharge and Letters of Exemption currently issue within approx. 2 weeks of receipt of the request. Please allow enough time before close of sale as requests are dealt with on a first come first served basis.
Please note that utility bills, TV licence, House Insurance and Statutory Declarations are not sufficient to demonstrate that the property was the PPR of the owner during the 2010 -2013 NPPR Liability period
Newly constructed but unsold buildings which had never been used as dwellings and that formed part of the trading stock of a business were exempt from the NPPR.So we need it for years before the house was purchased ie was still w builder.2009-2011.
House was unoccupied then
Note that the €2070 due for 2009 has now expired and is no longer due. All local authorities have been instructed not to accept payment for it. The charge on the property for 2009 is removed and is not a concern for the purchaser. The Law Society have advised solicitors that this has been confirmed to them by government.Can you try to contact the vendor from 2012 directly?
You can also pay the charge in arrears yourself. It's an awful lot of money but might be better than letting a sale fall through:
YEAR OF CHARGE AMOUNT DUE 2009 €2070 2010 €1830 2011 €1470 2012 €1110 2013 €750 Total €7230
I sold in SDCC earlier this year and had to provide utility bills. The utilities have this under control and will send you what you need once your name matches the account.Well I know the sworn declaration is enough with Fingal and Dublin County Council. Any council asking for utility bills from 11 years ago is being unreasonable.
I sold in SDCC earlier this year and had to provide utility bills. The utilities have this under control and will send you what you need once your name matches the account.
I was able to get them, so I've no idea what the alternative would be but if some authorities are accepting them, you'd hope the others would follow suit.Mad. My wife sold one property in Dublin City and I sold one in Fingal in the last year and neither of us required utility bills. Sworn declaration was considered sufficient and that is what it states on their website. I don't know why councils are asking for different things. I can't even tell you what utility company I was with 10 years ago......
Yes we got the exemption using bills for the years we have been living in the house but not for years it’s unoccupied prior to our purchase. Co council have actually been helpful so we’ve submitted something to purchasers solicitor and waiting to see if it’s accepted. Fingers crossed !!I was able to get them, so I've no idea what the alternative would be but if some authorities are accepting them, you'd hope the others would follow suit.
Good point - we have something from co council now but if it’s not accepted will try this!!Newly constructed but unsold buildings which had never been used as dwellings and that formed part of the trading stock of a business were exempt from the NPPR.
Surely your solicitor could provide evidence to the purchaser's solicitor that you were the first purchasers of a newly built house?
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