New tax on ARF's not drawn down each year.

battyee

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I recently heard part of a radio news item about an extra 3% tax to be levied on ARF's which were not drawn down each year after retirement. Has anybody heard of this ?
 
A bit of bummer and I would say that it is changing the rules retrospectively which I feel is unfair - if you had known of this in advance, then the ARF may not have been your best choice.

If it's any consolation, this seems to be a growing trend in Europe - the French are doing the same thing on long-term life assurance contracts.
 
Hi Batt

  • Please note that there is not an additional tax of 3% as suggested in your post
  • The new rule basically means that if you are an ARF holder (i.e. you are retired) then you must draw down a minimum of 3% of the fund each year in the form of income
  • The new rule was brought in because many of Ireland's wealthiest retired people have ARFs of > €5million and they never draw income from their ARF (because they probably have investment income, rental income etc) and they can pass it tax-free to their estate on their death...Revenue is trying to clamp down on this way of avoiding tax by the very wealthy - it should not really affect most ARF holders (normal people like you and me) because we would normally draw down 3% or more of the fund each year anyway
 
When I followed Clubmans Google search this morning (2nd august) I got this newer hit which cast some light on this new "tax".


from unison (subscription required)
[FONT=Arial, Verdana, Arial] Fund chiefs highlight pension ARF anomaly[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial]Wednesday August 2nd 2006[/FONT]

by Charlie Weston


From the Irish Association of Pension Funds.

 
Yes - as I mentioned, 1% assumed in 2007, 2% in 2008, and 3% in 2009 and thereafter.

I presume the OP is not retiring in 2007 or 2008?

If this presumption is correct then the advice remains, it is not an additional tax, it is a "compulsory drawdown" minimum of 3% each year.

With fund growth (hopefully > 3%) the original fund would remain intact.
 
Thanks to all. The IAPF explains the situation well but I think it very unfair that from next year I have got to drawdown 3% when I had planned to leave my modest sum of 100,000 ARf investment until my savings (from already taxed income) had run out.
 
Hi batty - no in 2007 you only need to take 1% and 2% in 2008.

It is not until 2009 that you will need to draw 3%.