jdwex; couldnt agree more. used the M11 for the first time few weeks back. Coming from M1 to M50 to M11. Unfamiliar with road and so was the motor behind me ( also LH reg) we both kept weaving in and out as I ( and probably the other driver) thought that I was going to be 'slipped' off the the left if I didnt enter the RH lane. Took me about 3 junctions before I realised that the LH was perfectly ok to continue on in.
I do not understand. What "Weaving"Quote:
Originally Posted by John_DI
In an ideal world, nobody should overtake approaching a slip road. Overtaking lane would then be free for traffic on the Motorway to move over to allow merging traffic to join.
I disagree with you here insofar I don't think it should be legally forbidden. Unnecessary weaving causes "phantom jams" at motorway intersections
I did say "in an ideal world". On Motorways in Ireland the overtaking lane is quite often more congested than the left hand lane.As you approach and pass an entrance slip road, keep an eye on the traffic about to join the morotway. If it is safe for you to move from the left hand lane to the center lane without worrying a driver coming up behind it is considerate to do so in order to make easier for the driver joining the motorway as well as to keep yourself out of trouble.
Motorists must obey road signs and road markings and must not drive on hatch markings before merging with traffic.
That's great if motorists know what the hatch markings and closed white lines are for - unfortunately too many here in Ireland don't and it's incredibly dangerous.
One of the places I've become very cautious with is where the M11 joins the M50 southbound. .
Essentially cars moving from one lane to another tends to cause congestion on motor ways. Have you never come across those strange tailbacks on motorways that seem to occurr for no reason?Hi,
jdwex Wrote:
I do not understand. What "Weaving"
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uote:
Originally Posted by John_DI
Hi,
jdwex Wrote:
I do not understand. What "Weaving"
.
Essentially cars moving from one lane to another tends to cause congestion on motor ways. Have you never come across those strange tailbacks on motorways that seem to occurr for no reason?
.I've never come across a motorway anywhere in the world where overtaking would be forbidden near intersections
In an ideal world, nobody should overtake approaching a slip road.
As a motorist you are obliged AT ALL TIMES to give way to traffic joining a motorway.
I sent an email to the NRA (National Roads Authority) asking for the rationale regarding the signage, but they never bothered replying. My theory is they got a graduate engineer who doesn't drive to design them.
jd
NRA said:Dear Mr. jdwex,
Thank you for your email regarding gantry signs on the M50.
To date there have not been very many overhead gantry or cantilever signs used in this country. The new overhead cantilever type signs were piloted on the M50 South Eastern Motorway along with the newer sign face layout with the separate panel for each lane. Following the installation of these signs a study was carried out on behalf of the Authority by the UCD Marketing Development Programme to determine the attitudes of motorists to the new signage with a view to determining its effectiveness. The study found that motorists “considered the signage beneficial” and “found the sequence of the signage excellent”. The new signage namely Cantilever, Gantry and Next Exit signs were well received by all motorists and considered a great improvement over the more traditional motorway signs bringing much greater clarity than before. In relation to the gantry signs in particular, motorists responded very positively stating that they were “very comprehensive, informative and helpful”. There was however, some confusion over lane destination and a certain “ambiguity regarding the eventual destination displayed on the left lane as this indicated that continuing along the M50 in this lane would reach that destination only”. On foot of these findings the Authority has recently made alterations to the sign face layout on overhead gantry signs – the revised layout will be used on future overhead gantry signs on motorways and dual carriageways including those on the upgrade works elsewhere on the M50.
I hope the above information is of assistance to you.
Regards
xxxx
Coming from M1 to M50 to M11. Unfamiliar with road and so was the motor behind me ( also LH reg) we both kept weaving in and out as I ( and probably the other driver) thought that I was going to be 'slipped' off the the left if I didnt enter the RH lane. Took me about 3 junctions before I realised that the LH was perfectly ok to continue on in.
As a motorist you are obliged AT ALL TIMES to give way to traffic joining a motorway. The reason for the overtaking lane is to allow you to move in to it for the purpose of overtaking. If you find yourself stuck in the inside lane, unable to move safely into the overtaking lane, you MUST yeild to traffic joining your lane....
Is just basic ignorance!
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