Why are you prepaired to accept the fine begrudgingly?,
Can I confirm exactly what you mean by this? Are you suggesting that all 'no right turn' and 'no left turn' signs are contrived nonsense?Probably because the 'rule' was some contrived nonsense to start with.
Why are you prepaired to accept the fine begrudgingly?, you broke the rules of the road and got caught, tough, accept it and move on
Not much logic here - If financial incentives are effective (as you imply), then surely fines are even more effective and immediate that waiting for possible financial impacts through insurance over the long term?I disagree, the offender will be more concerned about being hit in the pocket by increased insurance premiums over the long term so will be more careful not to rack up points on their licence.
macnas is on the money. Definately engage a good solicitor who may end up retaining a barrister however the net result will be that the matter will be struck out. No penalty points so happy days.
Good luck in court.
If he pays the fine, he gets two points which will have no effect on his premium (to the best of my knowledge no insurers add anything for the first two points), overall cost €80?
Now, which would you choose?
Not much logic here - If financial incentives are effective (as you imply), then surely fines are even more effective and immediate that waiting for possible financial impacts through insurance over the long term?
As for being fined as well as penalty points, reality is that that is a standard practise for many offences, not just driving offences. Remember as well there are 2 other penalties a judge can impose if they feel the offence is serious enough, namely a straight ban and prison
I have been driving for 20 years since I was 18, , have a full clean license, no penalty points, never fined or even pulled over. Doesn't mean I drive at 30 miles an hours on the motorway, just means I don't drive like a prat.
Can I confirm exactly what you mean by this? Are you suggesting that all 'no right turn' and 'no left turn' signs are contrived nonsense?
Would you care to share some examples of this around Dublin?Yes many are.
I can site numerous areas that traffic patterns have been changed by the local councils, with Dublin City Council being far the worst and the "traffic engineers" have failed to update corresponding "no right/left turns" on relevant streets.
That's not what Randy said. He said that his main incentive was concern around increased insurance costs arising from penalty points, not loss of licence.I would agree with Randy in the sense that pre points I was caught speeding a couple of times and I didn't mind just stumping up the cash, but when the points came in the fine took a back seat and my worry was collecting points and possibly losing a licence.
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