Minimum Alcohol Pricing, Licensing Laws, Much Reduced Advertising for Alcohol. What Next?

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The Nanny State rolls on. Advertising of alcohol is now banned from our airways during certain hours. We’ve had minimum pricing on alcohol for years. Supermarkets must have special sections for display of alcohol. Have alcohol problems ceased in Ireland as a result of any of these? The answer is an emphatic No. How long more will it be that the Policers of Fun can dictate their useless terms?The solution to alcohol abuse has not been helped by any of the foregoing. Time to wake up and smell how alcohol should be treated in Ireland.
 
Leper said:
Have alcohol problems ceased in Ireland as a result of any of these? The answer is an emphatic No.
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Can you point to the data there? I'd be interested in reviewing. The 0% circumvention of the advertising ban should have been easily foreseen.
 
What is shocking is the amount of advertising for gambling on Sky TV channels and on-line. Bad enough having a drink and porn addiction without them hooking me on gambling as well!
 
But where does one draw the line re advertising any consumables, and some have been mentioned above.

I know someone who is addicted to buying cosmetics. Should cosmetics be banned from advertising. Arguably causing harm to their skin and to their family, financially. Sure, they may say its harmless!!

I know of another that addicted to fast food....shoukd we only allow advertising of things that are good for us?

know another who spends load on clothes, addicted they are. Bad for environment and their families finances. Ban advertising clothes, is that the answer.

Personal accountability and responsibility is the answer.

Waste of time banning advertisements for things that are 'bad for us'.

Let people make their own minds up and take resp for their own actions.
 
We need to start a national campaign of shaming alcoholics, gambling addicts, fat people, the over use of fake tan and false eyelashes, people who get lip filler etc. I think that would sort most of it out. Be nice to bald men though...
 
The stats say alcohol consumption is falling year on year

We are falling out of love with booze: Why Ireland is drinking less

Alcohol consumption in Ireland has fallen by almost one-third so far this century, driven by more health-conscious young people with less disposable income
www.irishtimes.com

Unfortunately, a large chunk of it probably has been replaced by causal drug use.
 
jim said:
Let people make their own minds up and take resp for their own actions.
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Extending that personal responsibility line we could do away with most of our legislation. Sure why would you need to make theft, assault, or even murder a crime if everyone just took personal responsibility. I mean we all agree they're bad right?

That's the problem of living as part of a society. People are notoriously poor decision makers and they have widely ranging views on what is or is not appropriate. Living largely in harmony requires rules.
 
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I've no problem with letting people make their own minds up and take responsibility for their own actions as long as they don't then want other people to pay for the consequences. As long as people are willing to pay the full cost of the health services they will consume because of the food and drink and tobacco and illegal drugs they consume then let them fill their boots.

If not then I want to see selfish and irresponsible behaviour such as excess alcohol consumption, smoking, getting fat etc taxed and taxed heavily (no pun intended). I also want to see the businesses that profit from supplying the goods and services which cause they problems which the State then has to pay for taxed heavily and their ability to advertise seriously restricted.

So, tax alcohol, sugary drinks, pizza and processed food, tobacco and gambling. When the receipts from the taxes pay for the consequences of the products they sell, and when the people who consume the products they sell pay for the healthcare etc that they consume and when they get no welfare if they are unable to work due to the products they consume then it'll be down to individual responsibility, then let people do what they want.
 
Leper said:
Advertising of alcohol is now banned from our airways during certain hours.
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The outright ban on tobacco advertising seems to have worked well, with reductions in consumption and the harmful consequences.

Why has the ban on alcohol not worked well? One reason is that the producers can fill our screens and other media with their 0% alcohol products, which keeps their names front and centre with consumers. Another is that despite their bleating about it and their lack of guts to impose an outright ban, the government needs the tax revenue from alcoholic beverages.
 
Leper said:
The Nanny State rolls on. Advertising of alcohol is now banned from our airways during certain hours.
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The key is in the time qualification. You are not being nannied my dear Leper, younger folk are being nannied, we are just including alcoholic advertising in "adult" contact. If we can't nanny our kids who can we nanny?
 
Purple said:
As long as people are willing to pay the full cost of the health services they will consume because of the food and drink and tobacco and illegal drugs they consume then let them fill their boots.
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Unfortunately I think we both know there is a large correlation between those who place the greatest burden on services and those who feel entitled to everything for nothing.
 
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