+1.
I was a mature student some 12 years ago. There was 40 in my class at the start of first year. The next year we were down to 10. I was the only mature student of the lot. A 75% drop out rate. Madness.
Secret agent training is very hard.Waitaminute!!!
A class of 40 reduces to 10!!
What happens in that situation?
Do they reduce the teaching staff?
Do they offer places to others?
Say for example they hire two french lecturers,for the 40 students.
then 30 drop out so the college needs just one,or a half of one,what do they do?
Are we ( tax payers ) paying for this??
Do the colleges take this massive drop out rate into account when hiring staff?
(Questions not directed at the quoted poster,just general questions )
Well they do. In the sciences a 75% drop out rate is common enough particularly in the ITs. They would have enough lecturers hired to teach the first years. In the second year there would be different teachers teaching the now smaller class. You would normally loose one student a week over the course of the year and of course a few would fail the exams. I did comment on the drop out rate to one of the senior teachers, he said the most that ever came back in second year was 15.Waitaminute!!!
A class of 40 reduces to 10!!
What happens in that situation?
Do they reduce the teaching staff?
Do they offer places to others?
Say for example they hire two French lecturers,for the 40 students.
then 30 drop out so the college needs just one,or a half of one,what do they do?
Are we ( tax payers ) paying for this??
Do the colleges take this massive drop out rate into account when hiring staff?
There were some awfully immature students back in the day.
In fact, it might be no bad thing if they had to go straight out into the real world for a couple of years before going to University in order to realise the competition they will be up against in the labour market and the fact that most of them are not the fascinating ,uber talented, sought after beings they seem to imagine they are.
Thats a brilliant idea - is that what the idea of a 'gap' year is about
In my day 'kibbutzing' combined with the temporary adoption of eastern religions/philosphies, a wholefood diet with a side order of mind altering substances was the big thing.
The Orna Mulcahy article was elitist, snobby and all about me, me, me, me me.
It is hard trying to get into college, and it is stressful for parents of leaving cert students, but Orna Mulcahy specifically talked about " parents in the suburbs".
She doesn't have a lot of sympathy with people who can't got to college, because they don't live in a city or town with a college and their parents cant afford the rent and upkeep, or people from backgrounds where there is no-one to encourage them, help them with CAO forms, make sure they have somewhere quiet to study, people
with disabilities ( The list goes on, and on, and on)
There are lots of people for whom getting into college and staying there is a real struggle, both mature students and school leavers.
Having a go at mature students taking my childs place is just selfish.
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