The article is entitled 'Should Mature Students be Allowed Go To College?' and suggestss that too many mature students are being allowed into college at the expense of school leavers who really need these places. Just wondering how people feel about this?
I see Orna Mulcahy has been annoying people again with her latest Irish Times article (I'm afraid I wasn't able to do the link). The article is entitled 'Should Mature Students be Allowed Go To College?' and suggestss that too many mature students are being allowed into college at the expense of school leavers who really need these places. Just wondering how people feel about this? Personally I think she's talking a load of rubbish and anyone who has the ability to get into University should be equally entitled to a place.
The big problem is immmature students taking places. Every year thousands of Leaving Certs sign up for Arts, Social ,studies etc without actually finding out what the courses are about.
The country has become obsessed with the points race and college places. Students feel that they are afailure unless they are destined for a third level course.
Then after a few months the dropping outs begins
I dont think mature students taking college places is a big problem. The big problem is immmature students taking places. Every year thousands of Leaving Certs sign up for Arts, Social ,studies etc without actually finding out what the courses are about.
The country has become obsessed with the points race and college places. Students feel that they are afailure unless they are destined for a third level course.
Then after a few months the dropping outs begins
Ali... i feel sorry for your niece. Someone that wants to get ahead with a career is not allowed due to red tape and her age. Is it worth contacting dept of social welfare and family affairs or dept of education direct to see if there are any special exemptions. Best of Luck
That is the problem..
Many mature students ,sign up for degree courses and after a few months the novelty wears off or they have childminding issues or they discover that the course isnt for them afterall.
I think to take a degree course ,that the mature student should show a commitment by doing a shorter course first to see how interested they really are.
On another issue,but still in regard to mature students,I have done courses where some of the particpants didnt have to pay and due to this they had no commitment and wouldnt turn up a lot of the time.
I know of some people whom are doing courses in UCD ,which they started in Oct 09,they were so up for it and so determined and wouldnt hear of how difficult and time consuming it would be along with travel time and work load including having to have the kids minded,and its only now that the novelty has worn off that they see its not what they wanted after all,and some intend to drop out.
As far as I know the drop out numbers are large in the first year.Which is a pity for those whom did want to do that course but couldnt get a place,and leads me to think how valid is the universitys interview process ...
That is the problem..
Many mature students ,sign up for degree courses and after a few months the novelty wears off or they have childminding issues or they discover that the course isnt for them afterall.
I think to take a degree course ,that the mature student should show a commitment by doing a shorter course first to see how interested they really are.
On another issue,but still in regard to mature students,I have done courses where some of the particpants didnt have to pay and due to this they had no commitment and wouldnt turn up a lot of the time.
I know of some people whom are doing courses in UCD ,which they started in Oct 09,they were so up for it and so determined and wouldnt hear of how difficult and time consuming it would be along with travel time and work load including having to have the kids minded,and its only now that the novelty has worn off that they see its not what they wanted after all,and some intend to drop out.
As far as I know the drop out numbers are large in the first year.Which is a pity for those whom did want to do that course but couldnt get a place,and leads me to think how valid is the universitys interview process ...
... being exposed to social and recreational drugs and activities including sex for what may be the first time for some, while at the same time maintaining attendances...
(sigh) Yes, it was a struggle. We all have our crosses to bear I guess.
I do remember however the brightest and most studious guy in our class going seriously off the rails at college whilst relative dossers (like myself) got on OK. I think it was due to a fairly sheltered previous life and the sudden avaialbility of 'distractions'.
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