Flybytheseat
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Agree which is exactly the reason I wont be voting for populists dreamers such as Sinn Fein in the next election. Love the hidden profile btw.It would very much be your problem if there were not enough workers to meet your pensions out of current government expenditure.
How so?The words you are looking for are "I was wrong".
So emigrate and stop moaning (the latter being optional; if you wish to continue moaning then it's a free country).
Incidentally, if you had told us what gender your baby is, then I wouldn't have dreamed of calling it "it"!
Young educated Irish people in employment emigrating to have their children abroad is a profound loss to the nation economically, culturally, socially etc.
Hopefully the op does not take your advice
Won't be going down that road again...
And I (we) are lucky and will manage.
I must say I am surprised at some of the views on here.
It's not about you or any one individual or their particular circumstances managing or thriving etc.
Large portions of the world including Ireland face acute demographic challenges in the coming decades that cannot be ignored. Encouraging affordable family formation (particularly among native productive citizens) should be a key priority of the state.
I am skeptical that any political party will address the issue as it's a slowly developing one but a solution isn't possible last min.
About what specifically?I must say I am surprised at some of the views on here.
The reality is the single biggest contributer to carbon footprints is having a child and bringing another person who consumes energy into the world! Should we be subsidising that given the climate crisis?
We are an aging society which will become much more apparent over the coming decades. Encouraging Irish people to have children will at best stabilise the population but probably in effect slow the decline to a more manageable level to avoid serious issues in the worker to retired ratios.
A basic function of the Irish state should be the continuance of the Irish people, the system will demand a certain level of population/workers in the future. Those people can either be the children/grandchildren of the Irish people alive today or they will be immigrant workers who will replace the children Irish people didn't have. I'd prefer the former but I think many people are indifferent or actively would prefer the latter unfortunately.
Why?Your continued use of "replace" is odd.
Why?
Irish people have a total fertility rate of approx 1.7 which is now well below 2.1 (the population replacement level) and falling fast. This is still better than many developed countries like Korea which are I believe at approx 0.8 but the downward trend is clear over the last number of years.
When we are in our old age we will require workers to fund our pensions out of current exchequer spending and probably direct care in nursing homes, hospitals etc.
If the state does not encourage Irish people to have more children this work will still have to be done and we will have to rely heavily on immigration to replace the future Irish workers that were not born.
As said above, infinite population growth is not possible or desirable - however depopulating too fast will cause major decades long economic (+social and cultural issues) for the state.
It would seem that the government should use our comparatively good demographic situation to encourage young couples via affordable family formation policies to have a reasonable amount of children to aim for a total fertility rate in or around 2.1 thus softening the demographic landing. The compounding effect of population growth means the sooner we take this seriously and invest in affordable family formation policies like increased parental leave etc the less drastic measures will have to be taken later on.
The reality is the single biggest contributer to carbon footprints is having a child and bringing another person who consumes energy into the world! Should we be subsidising that given the climate crisis?
How family planning could be part of the answer to climate change
You’ve changed your lightbulbs, you recycle, you’ve retrofitted your house, cycle when you can, and drive an electric car when you can’t. You’re doing your bit to reduce your carbon emissions and prevent…theconversation.com
Eh, no there wasn’t. There were flat benefits of around €350 a week.
Implementing such increases in benefits to bring them in line with the person’s salary, which is what they do in Switzerland, would cost a massive amount. It simply could not be funded by ‘a small increase via employer prsi’.
Maternity Benefit is around €280 a week. State employees and people in sectors such as the large multinationals, financial services, professional practices, or larger indigenous companies get paid their full salary for the six month period. That’s €7,280 versus potentially anything (e.g. €50,000 for someone on €100,000).
I think it’s clear what’s ‘nonsense’.
eco-derangement syndromeThe reality is the single biggest contributer to carbon footprints is having a child and bringing another person who consumes energy into the world! Should we be subsidising that given the climate crisis?
How family planning could be part of the answer to climate change
You’ve changed your lightbulbs, you recycle, you’ve retrofitted your house, cycle when you can, and drive an electric car when you can’t. You’re doing your bit to reduce your carbon emissions and prevent…theconversation.com
Reminds me of the Frankie Boyle joke... If you want to do something about climate change, become a cannibal. And if you really want to do something about it, eat a pilot.eco-derangement syndrome
Reminds me of the Frankie Boyle joke... If you want to do something about climate change, become a cannibal. And if you really want to do something about it, eat a pilot.
Earth's population when I was born was 5 billion. By the time I retire it is expected to be 10 billion. Unsustainable and ignored at our peril.This is an extremist view that should be broadly ignored.
The State pays between €7,000 and €8,000 a year educating them, just as it does do my 4, as a single father with 3 of them still in education.To be honest, as a working father of 2, I'm struggling to think what else we got from the state bar some free medical costs (vacinations etc) at the time.
Well you probably won't, not unless you are earning significantly more than €100,000 a year.I will have paid 43 years of social insurance contributions by the time I retire so I firmly believe I have fully funded my own contributory pension
Covered already but the world's population will top out at around 10 billion before declining significantly. At the moment Europe and North America are below replacement level birth rates and Asia will fall below that level within the next few decades. By the end of this century 4 in every 10 people on earth will live in Africa, just to cheer up the racists amongst us.The reality is the single biggest contributer to carbon footprints is having a child and bringing another person who consumes energy into the world! Should we be subsidising that given the climate crisis?
How family planning could be part of the answer to climate change
You’ve changed your lightbulbs, you recycle, you’ve retrofitted your house, cycle when you can, and drive an electric car when you can’t. You’re doing your bit to reduce your carbon emissions and prevent…theconversation.com
I'm indifferent while seeing the obvious positive of having a more genetically diverse population with the corresponding health benefits.A basic function of the Irish state should be the continuance of the Irish people, the system will demand a certain level of population/workers in the future. Those people can either be the children/grandchildren of the Irish people alive today or they will be immigrant workers who will replace the children Irish people didn't have. I'd prefer the former but I think many people are indifferent or actively would prefer the latter unfortunately.
No, it'll be grand. You can ignore it. Really. Worry about what we consume and how we produce what we consume, not how many of us there are.Earth's population when I was born was 5 billion. By the time I retire it is expected to be 10 billion. Unsustainable and ignored at our peril.
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