I really doubt such people (i.e. "plenty of retired public servants that live in very valuable properties and pay little or no income tax") exist, but even if they do, it just supports my argument against lump-sum taxes such as the LPT. If you have little or no taxable income the imposition of LPT may be so high relative to your income that it is demonstrably unfair.However, the income of the vast majority of pensioners is sufficiently low that in reality they would pay no income tax on their pension income (source for distribution of pension income: [broken link removed]). A credit against their income tax liability for LPT payments would be of no benefit to such pensioners.
No idea what you think inheritance tax or capital gains tax has to do with funding local authority services.
The 'international comparison' argument is spurious. You can say this about almost anything in any society. Ireland has less prostitutes per head of population than Germany. Any you saying we have a resulting misallocating of sexual services? Societies allocate resources to their unique needs and desires. There is no evidence that allocating to some other society's needs is likely to improve the overall welfare of your own society.Again, our property tax is exceptionally low by international standards and, in my opinion, contributes to the significant misallocation of housing resources within our society.
That's fine PMU.I really doubt such people (i.e. "plenty of retired public servants that live in very valuable properties and pay little or no income tax") exist
That's where we fundamentally disagree.If you have little or no taxable income the imposition of LPT may be so high relative to your income that it is demonstrably unfair.
Exactly. So inheritance taxes have nothing to do with any discussion on the merits or otherwise of property taxes. Any more than corporation tax, income tax, excise duties, etc.Tax on inheritances has nothing to do with local authority services
I'm not arguing that we should have meaningful property taxes simply because they have them everywhere else - I happen to think that there are fundamentally justifiable reasons for taxing capital assets whose value largely derives from publicly funded services.The 'international comparison' argument is spurious. You can say this about almost anything in any society.
Again, I disagree but I think you may have misunderstood the point.As for contributing to 'significant misallocation of housing resources' this is also spurious and furthermore dangerous.
There is no incentive for the older cohort to "right size" to accommodation that would be more appropriate to their needs and hence the mis-allocation of resources.
I never realized that my house was a "resource" to be allocated.
This smacks of Marxist social engineering.
There should be no property tax.
It is an abomination that I have to save the 48% of my money that I'm left with, borrow at twice the European average to shore up State owned banks, and then get whacked for a truckload of property tax on a non-income generating asset whilst still getting hammered for income tax.
Oh, and by the way the State will snaffle 33% of the value of the house when I die in any event.
No one is forcing you to buy a house though?
Oh, and by the way the State will snaffle 33% of the value of the house when I die in any event.
I never realized that my house was a "resource" to be allocated.
No, you didn't pay for your house?No. The scarcity of housing is hardly my doing.
Unless one owns a business or a farm, it is difficult to avoid inheritance tax.
I'm not!Do not try to lay the responsibility for current housing shortage on the "older cohort".
C'mon Gordon! You said that the State will snaffle 33% of the value of your house when you die. Really?
Because there are currently a significant number of young children that are currently being raised in cramped apartments, hotels, etc. At a societal level do you really think it's an ideal situation that many empty nesters are living in properties that they are struggling to maintain when their offspring are trying to raise their grandchildren in cramped conditions?If not why the need to free up larger properties for use by growing families?
I didn't.Why do you assume the "older cohort" bought their current properties in the 70s.
Again, I didn't make any such assumption. I simply pointed out the level of income that is exempt from income tax for the over 65s when trying to explain how a retired person could live in a valuable property while paying little or no income tax.Why do you assume they pay no income tax?
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