KPMG: Doubt over PTSBs ability to continue as a going concern

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I am quite worried about the Irish Times piece that says KPMG said that the IL&P accounts “may cast doubt upon the group’s ability to continue as a going concern”.

I have all my savings in PTSB as I thought that they were the safest Irish Bank ??? Are KPMG correct? Could Permo shut down? I am taking my money out of Permo on Monday and moving it to KBC.
 
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It has been reported, in the Sunday Business Post, that some banks will wind down or be merged after the stress tests. PTSB may be one of those.

I have all my savings in PTSB as I thought that they were the safest Irish Bank ???

PTSB have significant difficulties:
A 200%+ loans to deposits ratio that needs to be reduced to 122%.
A huge loss making tracker mortgage base.
Questionable mortgage bad debt provisions.
Growing mortgage arrears.
Billions of emergency liquidity from the ECB and CBI.
Heavily loss making.

PTSB need to be shut down or merged into a new banking entity. The stress tests may shed further light on the situation at PTSB/IL&P.
 
What would happen mortgages with PTSB if they were to shut down or merge? Would people lose their trackers and be forced on to variable mortgages?
 
What would happen mortgages with PTSB if they were to shut down or merge? Would people lose their trackers and be forced on to variable mortgages?

No, your conditions would have to be honoured by whoever purchases the PTSB stressed mortgage pool.
 
Do you think there will be any impact on the Irish Life Section.
I have some investment in the Scope fund and I am a little conserned.
 
While PTSB have problems, they have the least problems of all the Irish financial institutions.

They have no lending to property developers.
They have needed no money from NAMA.
They have had no money input from the State.

Their sister company Irish Life is still profit making.

I am not saying that there is no risk, but there is less risk than all the other Irish ownded institutions.

brendan
 
Why is there a need for you to do this when there is a government guarantee?

Yep. it seems to me to be tweedle dum or tweedle dee. KBC is covered by the Irish Deposit Protection Scheme. The foreign based banks have to play by the Irish rules. Some diversification is sensible. But, with all the hoppin' & trottin' with deposits, it's probably only a matter of time before someone suggests putting your dosh in a robust Argentinian bank.
 
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Guys, what do you make of this. I've been considering opening a Ulster bank account now seeing as I still have savings in AIB and PTSB.

My other half of savings are in US shares and Nationwide UK (Ireland).

I've already given notice for my 35 day notice account with PTSB as the interest rate reduced to 2.5% last year. Should I move these to a safer financial institution? I will be phasing out savings on AIB soon into and easy access account with Nationwide UK
 
Not sure about AIB but if I compare the quality of service of PTSB with UB, then PTSB would win by a long distance... Expecially with their open 24 service...

Even if I still have a c/a with UB I keep PTSB and transfer to Rabo as soon as my salary gets in...

Talking about savings I've already moved away from every irish bank sorry and I love my Rabo, NIB esaver and Nationwide UK-Ireland deposits...
 
RTE: Irish State Likely to Take Full Control of IL&P

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0329/irishlife.html

 
I've already given notice for my 35 day notice account with PTSB as the interest rate reduced to 2.5% last year. Should I move these to a safer financial institution?

Why not move it to NUK, get a higher return and the UK guarantee.
 
Today I asked my employer to credit my salary on the rabo account, not anymore on PTSB...

I'm so much hoping that the EU could finally give a strong answer to Moody's and Co. that would make them shut up once for all...

Thinking that they were the ones rating "Lehmann Brothers" as supersecure before the bad day in 2008!!! It's so unfair...
 
Will they let you do this? Normally salaries have to paid into a current account.

No requirement that the account be a current a/c Ciaran,my wife works for a semi state and her salary is paid into an UB Dual a/c.
 
I confirm. Up to 2008 my salary used to be paid on my previous rabo account before I went to Australia for a while and that was when I reswitched to PTSB.
 
PTSB future is still far from clear - are BOI getting it or AIB? Is it being sold like EBS - well at one time it was up for sale? Still so many questions after today's event's.