.....& there we have it, a nice little dose of misogyny
.....& there we have it, a nice little dose of misogynyo address the first lie; there are about 200 GP graduates enter the system each year. Two thirds of those are women. The vast majority of them work part time and so they only add up to 110 full time GP's. The problem isn't that there aren't enough GP's. The problem is that they are so lazy and/or over paid that they only work a half day.
Very, very, true. Had an awful throat infection in Turkey some years ago and had to find a Dr. A local told me to go to a Turkish Dr's surgery, actually came with me to the door. Met by a nurse, spoke good English and was lovely and efficient, told me i'd have to wait about 30 mins. Dr walked out to greet me just as she spoke, he also had good English, told nurse to take bloods and explained to me that I would be put lying on a bed until he could get back to me and by then he would have blood results. Aprox 30 mins later he was back, with full diagnosis and medication and very kind to me, didn't want to let me go until I felt a bit better. Ok, it did cost me €175 and yes, they took Euro. My point is that this Dr in a small Turkish town had all the equipment in his surgery, he could also have taken X-Rays if needed. Irish GP's by comparison are tight and one can safely say very limited in what they have in their surgeries. Maybe they need a good wake up call and people should let them know that a hell of a lot more is expected off them for what they charge. Time when the professionals could pull the wool over peoples eyes should be long gone.
Perhaps it's time for the ordinary Joe Soap to go on strike and tell everyone complaining about how good they have it.
Ireland actually produces the highest number of medical graduates per capita in the OECD!
The issue is that EEA students (who are mainly Irish) get an incredibly expensive education for just €3,300 a year for six years. I haven't checked the numbers recently but the taxpayer will pay something like a quarter of a million euros for a medicine degree on top of what the student pays in fees.
At the end they have to work hard, but no doctor working full time in Ireland is outside the top 10% of income earners by the age of 35, and many will make it to the top 1%. Yes, they will pay a lot of tax, but there is a good case for making them pay a lot in extra fees too, particularly given that a significant minority will emigrate, make a lot of money abroad and not pay tax in Ireland.
Really, calling people out for not doing their job is misogyny?.....& there we have it, a nice little dose of misogyny
2/3 of GP's are women.I doubt that the 'vast majority' of female GPs work part time, although I am sure it is a substantial number. I am sure some male GPs work part time too.
The fact is that part-time work is great if you can get it, the problem is that it generally pays less per hour than full-time work for most people.
Parts of the medical profession - GPs and nursing for example - are very nice in that you can work part-time hours with the same hourly wage rate. Given that marginal tax rates are pretty heavy at the high end in Ireland, this is a very nice work-income-lifestyle balance that isn't available to people in most professions.
I go to a GP about once a year. I don't have a regular one as I am shopping around to find one I think is any good. In the last few years the practices have varied from large modern purpose built building with good equipment and nurses and receptionists to small grotty rooms with a single receptionist. If a doctor has a GMS list the State pays for additional staff, depending n the size of their list (number of medical card patients). That means that a moderately large practice will see their Nurse and Practice Manager pay for by the State. The amount per patient that the GP tells everyone they get is on top of that. When you divide the total amount GP's get under the GMS scheme and divide it by the total number of consultations they do they average per consultation was around €70 before the cuts. I think it is around €60 now. That doesn't include the value of their pension.All medical doctors have had to curtail their work, upgrade services, employ more staff, take in nurse(s) to the practice etc.
This thread is about Nurses and their pay. But, GP's and their problems have ared to have sneaked in. Furthermore, its Fulltime GP and Part-Time GP.
All medical doctors have had to curtail their work, upgrade services, employ more staff, take in nurse(s) to the practice etc. What I knew to be a GP in my youth has considerably changed. The big game-changer is litigation. No GP can tell if the next patient is going to sue him/her out of existence. Any GP doctor worth his/her salt would be at the receiving end of a huge claim at least once during the life of the practice.
Unfortunately, the country has got what it wished. Somebody must pay the legal eagles.
The big game-changer is litigation. No GP can tell if the next patient is going to sue him/her out of existence.
They are about the biggest clique in the country, they don't Rob each others patients, let alone throw a colleague under the bus for something as trivial as medical negligence
It’s very hard to sanction anyone in any sector in this country for not doing their job properly but on the accusation that they are a cartel; yes, of course they are.They are about the biggest clique in the country, they don't Rob each others patients, let alone throw a colleague under the bus for something as trivial as medical negligence
I go to a GP about once a year. I don't have a regular one as I am shopping around to find one I think is any good. In the last few years the practices have varied from large modern purpose built building with good equipment and nurses and receptionists to small grotty rooms with a single receptionist. If a doctor has a GMS list the State pays for additional staff, depending n the size of their list (number of medical card patients). That means that a moderately large practice will see their Nurse and Practice Manager pay for by the State. The amount per patient that the GP tells everyone they get is on top of that. When you divide the total amount GP's get under the GMS scheme and divide it by the total number of consultations they do they average per consultation was around €70 before the cuts. I think it is around €60 now. That doesn't include the value of their pension.
It’s very hard to sanction anyone in any sector in this country for not doing their job properly but on the accusation that they are a cartel; yes, of course they are.
A bit like teachers then and the opposite of builders.doctors never ever say anything but every single one of their fellow doctors are practically perfect in every way.
It’s very hard to sanction anyone in any sector in this country for not doing their job properly but on the accusation that they are a cartel; yes, of course they are.
The CPCC (formerly Competition Authority) actually went to the High Court a few years ago to stop the IMO from co-ordinating activities of its members as it had many of the features of cartel-like behaviour.
Probably employers' PRSIThey go on to say that their 12% pay claim will cost circa €300 million a year.
12% of €2.16 billion is €259 million. Where did the other €41 million come from?
Source
Yes, that's probably it.Probably employers' PRSI
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