I could also ask. What's the possible total loss if the nurses don't get treated properly? Remember, no one's getting a pay rise and no public servants have been given any pay rises either.
I think you may have missed thisRemember, no one's getting a pay rise and no public servants have been given any pay rises either.
It is understood the deal will cost the exchequer €880 million over three years
Pay was cut and hasn't got back to what it was before the cut yet many years have passed. So, no pay increases, in fact, pay cuts. As for a stability agreement? Fine Gael made sure it was far from an agreement. What you might call a forced choice.
That whole “pay restoration” narrative is horse manure. Public servants, nurses included, were overpaid in 2008. Those days must never return. Fine Gael are doing the right thing. I have a lot of time for nurses but I don’t support them in this instance. €30k for a graduate is decent money.
What do you mean by £treated properly"?I could also ask. What's the possible total loss if the nurses don't get treated properly? Remember, no one's getting a pay rise and no public servants have been given any pay rises either.
Average Garda pay is €66,000 a year.Basic rates of pay are irrelevant when it comes to the likes of nurses and especially guards who while perhaps earn 23k basic a week after leaving templemore, when you add in the litany of added extras, no guard is on less than 30k ( not including over time )
Average Garda pay is €66,000 a year.
Average Nurses pay is €55,000 a year.
Garda pay including the value of their pension is over €100,000 a year. Nurses total pay value is far lower because Gardai retire after 30 years.
No, it's clearly a pay rise. You may need to read it againPay was cut and hasn't got back to what it was before the cut yet many years have passed. So, no pay increases, in fact, pay cuts. As for a stability agreement? Fine Gael made sure it was far from an agreement. What you might call a forced choice.
I didn't notice it; I thought you said 23k a year.Sorry for crazy typo earlier, auto spell on phone selected week instead of year.
Of course I didn't mean new garda entrants earn 23k per week
That whole “pay restoration” narrative is horse manure.
It's funny that when wages were reduced they were a "cut" but when they are increased they are "restored"
I don't think it would be that high but it's certainly a good indicator of what the ceiling could be.According to Eurostat, in 2016 (latest year available) total general government expenditure on compensation of employees was €19.4 bn, of which €7bn was in the health sector.
Educated guess would say by 2019 these numbers are more like €20.5bn and €7.7bn.
You can crudely multiply these numbers by 12.5% to get the knock-on implications.
Issue isn't staffing levels. Its staff organiastion and utilisation by management.
We have one of the highest ratios of nurses per capita in the world.
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