Learner2015
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Thanks for that, do you know what type of paint they used?
€950 might explain the fumes and a possibly cheap paint and similar to that used in the factories that make units.
I was quoted €1600-€1800 for a fairly standard size kitchen, but as above using Farrow and Ball or Fired Earth paints.
We haven't gone ahead yet as its part of a bigger project. (waiting on kbc refund)
If for example the cabinets, etc, are made up of MDF, ie, medium density fibreboard, the breakdown from this board over the years is a lot worse than any paint and most kitchens are made from this, as are engineered internal doors, floor boards, attic flooring, carpets, etc.
Shouldn't be an issue with CE certified products as the levels of formaldehyde emission for those will remain below WHO guidelines. The only real current health risk with MDF is for those working with it due to the very fine dust particles produced when cutting or sanding.
and the breakdown of the chemicals in the plastic bottle give off very bad levels of cancerous substances.
I'm lined up to do mine; Colourtrend paint - same as I have in the rest of the house.
Agree there's no point in painting something that's falling apart, but don't see any good in ripping out cupboards just because they are out of date.
From an environmental point of view I think we have to drop that practice.
A word of warning with this,
Toxic fumes will fill the house/Apt, These are not painted with a water based paint system like cars etc are, Chemicals are used which have been banned in the motor industry for obvious reasons. Although a reputable company will use a extraction system/Blower, you really need to be out of the property for at least 24hrs with full ventilation.
Also, the Employee carrying out the work is putting themselves at great risk, The excuse of a breathing apparatus used is really quite shocking, and this would be one of the more well known companys.
I have first hand experience with this, as the other half arranged it some months ago, and being inquisitive about the operation, I hung around.
Yes, it looks great, but at what cost to your health. I would expect the EPA will crack down on the methods used in this practice in the very near future.
Absolute nonsense,
Just because for obvious reasons water based are now a legal requirement for any body shop wishing to stay above the law, Isocyanates are still part of the painting process, i.e., in the top coat.
It's for this reason now more than ever as we learn of the dangers caused by toxic fumes, modern techniques still require a full body suit and air-fed oxygen masks.
Spray painting kitchen units, is exactly the same process, but unlike vehicles, which are painted in a controlled environment, spray painting in the home with only a dust mask and a blower is beyond stupidity, especially for the painter.
i didnt see him panting as i was at work
I didnt see much of him either, and I was at home. When I looked through the kitchen side window as he was in full flow, it was just a room full of haze, and he was in there somewhere with just his "dust mask" for protection.
Standing in the back garden, and I could smell the fumes being blown out to the atmosphere without a filter of any kind in use.
I am 100% certain, we will see law suits from the technicians down the road here, as you cannot be put into this type of environment on a daily basis without it affecting your health.
Im also certain, that this practice will not continue in its present form, and, that the EPA will come down heavy on this industry as it gains popularity.
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