Jeacle's mortgage calculator down?

Probably overloaded by the sheer size of the Irish mortgage debt :D
 
Working fine for me too. damson - did it ever work for you? What version of Java do you have installed (Start -> All Programs -> Control Panel -> Java -> General -> About...)? Does [broken link removed] work for you?
 
damson - did it ever work for you?
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Yes, the mortgage calculator used to work for me, but at the moment all I get is a grey box and when I place my cursor over it I get a message in the IE bar at the bottom of the page that says "load: class mortgage not found".
Does [broken link removed] work for you?
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Yes, it does.
What version of Java do you have installed (Start -> All Programs -> Control Panel -> Java -> General -> About...)?
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I'm using Windows 2000, so the path above doesn't seem to apply, but my control panel has a program "Java plug-in 1.3.1" and when I go into it, the box beside Enable Java Plug-in is checked.
 
hi guys, I had the same problem with jeacle's mortgage calculator. Its due to the fact that jeacle's mortage calculator has been updat to version 1.5 (most computers have 1.3 or 1.4).

Simple solution is to got to www.java.com and download the latest version of java for windows. Its free and only takes a couple of minutes and you are then able to access Jeacle's calculator once again.
 
damson said:
I'm using Windows 2000, so the path above doesn't seem to apply, but my control panel has a program "Java plug-in 1.3.1" and when I go into it, the box beside Enable Java Plug-in is checked.
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Sorry - the path to the Java control panel applet is different on Windows 2000 and I was referring to XP. I've been running the Java Runtime Environment 5 (aka 1.5) for a while now so maybe this later version is required in order to run the calculator? I wasn't aware that it had been updated such that it required the latest version of Java to run.
 
It was only done on Monday. I was running version 1.4 prior to that and had no problems. Obviously Jeacle's website are just keeping up to date and therefore installed the latest version.

I have downloaded version 1.5 and immeadiately was able to start using the calcualtor again. The same logic applies for the tax calculator at present they must be using version 1.3 or 1.4 as i had no problems accessing the calculator there.
 
Thanks for the information. Do you know specifically why the calculator would work with 1.5 but not previous versios of the runtime? I would have assumed that the Java APIs were backward compatible and that it would be unusual for there to be some API in a newer version that was not in an older version. Basically I don't understand why the calculator (or most Java applications/applets) would be unnecessarily tied to a specific version of the JRE (Java Runtime Environment). I have emailed Karl and ask him about this too and will try rolling back to an earlier version of the JRE later if I can to try and reproduce the problem.
 
Well i would agree with your logic there. It must be something that was done on Jeacle's website. For whatever reason it wont' support versions that our earlier then 1.5 now without getting the full facts of what karl done to the website calculator it is very difficult to make a comment.

its safest to update to the new version as it is free and won't take long. Alos people that are using the mortgage calculator are already online so getting on to java.com is a fairly easy and quick task.
 
OK - thanks. I'll post back with any information that I get from Karl about this matter.
 
I'd say Karl may have updated his applet to use some new features of Java 1.5 (possibly templates).
 
BooHoo! Company policy dictates that I can't download anything from the web. Are there any other mortgage calculators out there?
 
Try the following link might help you although you might encounter the same problem but you could be lucky. [broken link removed]Its basically Jeacle's calculator but incorporated into a different website.
 
Another website which is guaranteed to work is [broken link removed] It has the same functions as Jeacle's it will show monthly payment, total interest over the course of the loan and also a amortisation schedule throughout the years showing Interest, capital repayment and balance. Not as user friendly as Jeacle's Calcualtor but does exactly what it says on the tin!!
 
Hi again guys, just tried Jeacle's website with a different computer that has java version 1.3 it didn't work but i expected this.

I then used the [broken link removed] address and the calculator opened up perfectly. so for all you people not able to download Java there is your easy solution!
 
Karl got back to me to say that he has rolled back to the previous version of the calculator on his site and will investigate/fix the problem with the newer version sometime next week.
 
OK - Karl has kindly explained the issues and his planned solutions to me so I've reproduced them here for anybody who might be interested in the gorey details:

Karl Jeacle said:
It was a simple problem. I upgraded my development system to 1.4.2,
and by default, javac was generating class files that would not work
with Microsoft's old JVM. I'm now doing "javac -target 1.1" to ensure
that the calculator will run on older machines.

Unfortunately, because Microsoft stopped releasing their JVM at 1.1
and it doesn't include Swing support, newer versions of the calculator
will require Sun's plugin. For example, one example of a change that I
want to make soon is the addition of country specific currency formats
i.e. e123,456.78 will be displayed as 123.456,78e. To keep Irish users
happy, perhaps you could change any AAM FAQ links for the calculator to
point to http://www.jeacle.ie/mortgage/ie/
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and

Karl Jeacle said:
I will use Javascript to check if the MS JVM is being used.

As the "eu" page will require a feature that is only present in the new
calculator (i.e. alternative currency format), I will display a message
asking the user to download Sun's latest plugin.

The "ie" page will not require a feature present in the new calculator
so I will go ahead and load the existing calculator, but will display
a message saying that downloading Sun's latest plugin will enable the
user to see the new version.

So please do update any AAM links to point to "ie", and feel free
to copy any of our discussion to AAM.
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