Cowser, Please refrain from personalised comments/attacks.
As he says.I don't think he's taking any side just giving an objective opinion which is what the OP is looking for. No point in every reply being pro consumer. A devils advocate is always helpful.
This is untrue - here is the text of the PM in question which contain no insults unless you count Cowser calling some people "foolish". Please don't misrepresent the facts or what I said by PM! :mad:although I would also ask Clubman to refrain from insulting contributors simply because they have a different opinion to his, as he did to me in a private message the other day.
ClubMan said:No - I am not a restaurant owner or retailer of any sort. If you willingly agree to pay a stated price of €15 for a bowl of soup then it's not a ripoff. You have accepted the price that is clearly displayed. It may be a high price but that's a different matter. Ripoff involves some element of deception or sharp practice. If you the soup was described as home made but was actually made from an OXO cube then that too would be a ripoff. High prices don't necessarily mean ripoffs.
No. Margins are not the issue. The punter sees a price and decides whether or not s/he is willing to pay if for whatever's on offer. If they don't like the price then they can go elsewhere. If they do like the price or are content to accept it then that's their prerogative. No ripoff unless prices are not displayed (in which case the buyer should beware since it is illegal), they are charged more than the displayed price or the item purchased does not match the stated description.'Rip'off' can, surely, be only defined in terms of the mark-up the 'seller' enjoys, not whether or not the 'buyer' knows in advance that they are about to ripped off.
No.If they still go ahead and order they are foolish, but it doesn't mask the simple fact that the price is ludicrous, to the point of being a 'rip-off'.
Unfortunately many people including yourself don't seem to be able to distinguish between high prices and actual ripoffs which leads to confusion and means that true ripoffs don't get the concentrated attention that they should.
Regards
ClubMan
Askaboutmoney Administrator
What you need to do is when cancelling set out in writing your reasons and why you believe that the contract was breached and the penalty should not be charged.
I wrote a detailed email to JS in January complaining about the disgraceful hygiene standards. The manager rang up and addressed each point assuring me that things would improve. Nothing has improved, in fact it's much worse than it was a year ago. Unfortunately it's the closest gym so I put up with it. Maybe if more people complained they might do something.
A friend of mine left about a month ago and stated in a letter that she was leaving due to the lack of hygiene. I'll ask if she had to pay the extra two months charge.
Cahir, just wondering have things improved, I am experiencing major problems with hygiene at the gym, I have complained three times to the staff (twice to staff, once to manager) - I pointed out the problem to the manager, I then sent an email to the manager putting my concerns in writing - to date nothing has been done, this has been going on for about 6 weeks now and really has become a health and safety issue. As they are not taking me seriously does anybody know who else I can contact i.e is there a number you can ring to get health inspectors out - I know it's pretty drastic but these guys just won't listen to me - do they not read about MRSA and other bugs that can be spread in public areas?? :mad:
Refuse to pay which results in bad credit rating which then results in future mortgage refusal by prime lenders which then results in a ludicrously high interest rate from a sub prime lender.
You could always employ an expensive solicitor and chase Jackie Skelly through the courts and you may win and you may get your costs paid for and you may get the black mark eventually removed from the ICB or you may lose resulting in legal bills and a bad credit rating.
Jackie Skellys have started spamming me by text.
Awful.
You could write to the gym stating that while you have no intention of breaching the contract, you would be interested to hear their views on the hygiene standards in place and whether they consider these acceptable or consistent with their demand for a monthly membership fee.
I haven't had a response to my most recent complaint.
Incidentally, is it certain that NOT paying would screw up your credit rating? This isn't a loan, it's an agreement to pay a monthly subscription. There's no credit involved so how can it effect your credit rating??
Can anyone answer definitively???
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